k222bye Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi all. My TT autos twin turbos are leaking oil like no mans business and the play in the axle is ridiculous. I have been quoted £1600 for a rebuild including labor. I'm pretty handy with a spanner so im looking at taking the turbos out myself and sending them off to get refurbed. Had a quote from CR turbos to rebuild the ceramics for £600 which is fair. I' not going hybrid or single turbo anytime soon. Are there any other shops that are recommended in the Berkshire area or Lancashire area? And as i am going to replace all the gaskets etc can I buy those as a kit from toyota? Exhaust gaskets etc. Thank you in advance. May as well upload a cheeky picture. Spent 6 hours detailing her. [COOL][/COOL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Srt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi all. My TT autos twin turbos are leaking oil like no mans business and the play in the axle is ridiculous. I have been quoted £1600 for a rebuild including labor. I'm pretty handy with a spanner so im looking at taking the turbos out myself and sending them off to get refurbed. Had a quote from CR turbos to rebuild the ceramics for £600 which is fair. I' not going hybrid or single turbo anytime soon. Are there any other shops that are recommended in the Berkshire area or Lancashire area? And as i am going to replace all the gaskets etc can I buy those as a kit from toyota? Exhaust gaskets etc. Thank you in advance. May as well upload a cheeky picture. Spent 6 hours detailing her. [COOL][/COOL] [ATTACH=CONFIG]222346[/ATTACH] Whifbitz does hybrids for about £1060.00 inc vat I think, that's who I'm going to get to do mine.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Waste of time and money you would be better getting a good second hand set for £200, I had cr turbo stage 3 hybrids lasted a year they did see 1.6 bar of boost once though and swiftly pooped them selves. The best "bet" would be the ceramic rebuild like for like with no messing around if you had to rebuild but even then alot of the turbine housings are cracked at the wastegate , all 3 sets I had , had a crack there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdale Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Still waiting on someone in the UK to provide some real world info on rebuilds from Munro racing. They look like the best rebuild I've seen so far. Didn't even realise a ceramic rebuild was an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC93 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Do you ever plan on going single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Still waiting on someone in the UK to provide some real world info on rebuilds from Munro racing. They look like the best rebuild I've seen so far. Didn't even realise a ceramic rebuild was an option. There are two sets with forum members already I believe, not sure if anything has been done with them yet. I have emailed Glen a few times now and he sounds the best option out there for those wanting bigger numbers whilst staying sequential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k222bye Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 Im already full BPU, twin turbo Auto jap spec. In an ideal world id love hybrids. Im looking at 420bhp as i am now. But honestly right now i don't want to risk paying for hybrids and them popping. Would like a like for like rebuild on the ceramics. Im going to pull the turbos and see what the damage on the housing is. Going forward my options are: 1) buy a second hand twin turbo set and fit them myself. Probably cheapest option. 2) rebuild turbos, stock build no hybrid. From whomever everyone recommends. 3) ride a bike. - - - Updated - - - Do you ever plan on going single? I was but not immediately. Eventually i will do. But not right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffy Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The housing was cracked badly on the stock set I had removed and the the set I replaced them with had a small crack that was repaired before fitting. Seems to be a common problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 From my personal experience hybrids/rebuilt aren't worth it, a good second hand set is a much safer bet... or go single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k222bye Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 From my personal experience hybrids/rebuilt aren't worth it, a good second hand set is a much safer bet... or go single. Im going to keep my eye out for some second hand ones. I know mine are CT20s but does it make a difference if they are CT20 A, B, C or Ds? Not really sure of the differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladerider Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Try calling Mick at Essex Turbos, Yes, I know he isnt in your area No, I dont know if he'd do those for the general public But what he doesnt know about turbos isnt worth knowing !!! And he usually guarantees his rebuilds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 You say you don't want hybrids mate but the rebuild your talking about in post 1 will be a hybrid as the stock internals don't exists as a replacement. Any rebuild will not be done with stock ceramic stuff. Iirc they are always done with steel internals. I looked into the hybrid route and it's so hit and miss, and Lee p talked me out of it. If your in need of replacing them just buy a secondhand set of a known vvti engine so they are as new as possible the only additional change you will need is a vvti first decat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Glanza_Mike might have his Vvti turbos available still mate from his single swap. I'll message him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Waste of money rebuilding them, the shafts wont like the steel blades, best off getting a second pair, or go single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm not up with turbo's 100% but most 'blow' ie the ceramics shatter/have gone from a high boost incident. 'If' as it sound the seals are shot and it's leaking major oil but still making good boost, then presumably the turbines in his case are intact? Hence is there a chance they can be retained as they are and the sealing repaired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k222bye Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 You say you don't want hybrids mate but the rebuild your talking about in post 1 will be a hybrid as the stock internals don't exists as a replacement. Any rebuild will not be done with stock ceramic stuff. Iirc they are always done with steel internals. I looked into the hybrid route and it's so hit and miss, and Lee p talked me out of it. If your in need of replacing them just buy a secondhand set of a known vvti engine so they are as new as possible the only additional change you will need is a vvti first decat. /QUOTE] The car is already decatted. I think my best option is looking like getting some used twins now ;/.. i really don't want them blowing on me lol. Glanza_Mike might have his Vvti turbos available still mate from his single swap. I'll message him. /QUOTE] Cheers mate. Waste of money rebuilding them, the shafts wont like the steel blades, best off getting a second pair, or go single. MY pockets are restricting me from going single.. but i should start saving. If a single turbo snuffs it at least i could get another relatively easily. These CT20as are hard to come by. I'm not up with turbo's 100% but most 'blow' ie the ceramics shatter/have gone from a high boost incident. 'If' as it sound the seals are shot and it's leaking major oil but still making good boost, then presumably the turbines in his case are intact? Hence is there a chance they can be retained as they are and the sealing repaired? Good shout mate. The only way I know its spitting oil is through a borescope camera into the intakes. the actual turbines themselves are intact but the axle has play in it and wobbles. Only way I guess.. to sort it is to pull them out. then I can assess exactly what needs doing. These ceramics are known for cracking near the wastegate too apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If your in need of replacing them just buy a secondhand set of a known vvti engine so they are as new as possible the only additional change you will need is a vvti first decat. /QUOTE] Yep this is what I did, swap them out for a 57,000km set. Heard so many horror stories with rebuilt/hybrid turbos. FYI you won't need to buy a different 1st decat, you can just change the pre-cat down pipe over from your pre-vvti set of turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The car is already decatted. I think my best option is looking like getting some used twins now ;/.. i really don't want them blowing on me lol. Jake's referring to the flange angle difference to the first decat between pre-vvti and vvti turbos mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k222bye Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Jake's referring to the flange angle difference to the first decat between pre-vvti and vvti turbos mate. ahhh thank you mate. how did you change your de cat down pipe? I assume you had it machined and bolted on? I'm going to scour the web now for some second hand CT20A's. Will import them If I have to. Most that I find now are form Aristos. Do you know what type turbo you had? CT20B,C? etc? I don't know if I have to get an exact match with the letter i.e. CT20- X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) I just got quoted £450+VAT to rebuild the two Supra turbos. Only tried one place as a look see so maybe if you shop around you could get it cheaper than you were quoted. If anyone is after the part numbers for new they are for the CT20 and CT20A turbos 17201-46030 (front) and 17208-46030 (rear). There is a guy selling both unused in the US for $2,400 at the moment. or you can buy one from Burrows Toyota off eBay for £2,700 Edited September 14, 2017 by rider (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No one have any experience with the munro tubros from NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No one have any experience with the munro tubros from NZ? Is that the sister company of Munro Racing Turbochargers in Brisbane, Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Is that the sister company of Munro Racing Turbochargers in Brisbane, Australia? Sorry, meant Australia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Sorry, meant Australia... No need to apologise, my comment was tongue-in-cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girth45 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I have a set of munro stage 4 turbos to fit to mine (at some point ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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