sean17650199 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 As title says cant get the crank pulley bolt out had the impact gun on it and hasnt budged next call was going to be one of those locking tools and get the breaker bar on it unless anyone else has a better idea? If not is there a specific locking tool or would a universal one work? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Breaker bar on floor and crank trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Lots of threads in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Breaker bar on floor and crank trick. /QUOTE] Don't do this! Get a socket multiplyer and use a breaker car to undo it with lots of wd40 etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 is it a manual or auto? A manual you can put it in gear and have someone put their foot on the brake as an extra precaution and then use a breaker bar plus 'x' foot of scaffold pole over the top, if it's very tight it will 'go' in a series of cracks that sound bad but aren't, you often have to be far more brutal than seems reasonable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean17650199 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Its auto, take it they dont lock up? Ive heard about the breaker bar on the floor method but wasnt keen on it, is it safe enough to do or can damage be done elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Used the locking tool and a 6ft scaffold pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Locking tool and a 3/4 breaker bar worked for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Secure fitting socket with a breaker bar on floor and flip ignition, make sure you set it the right way so it doesn't fly upwards.....loads of people say not to do this but it works every time, its the way I've always done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Its auto, take it they dont lock up? Ive heard about the breaker bar on the floor method but wasnt keen on it, is it safe enough to do or can damage be done elsewhere? /QUOTE] I've got a tool so never needed to try it but I would remove an efi fuse if I did and triple check the direction it'll rotate! It's worked for many people trouble you'll have is you need to torque it back after somehow....air gun might do it I spose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Used the locking tool and a 6ft scaffold pole +1 , I think you can buy the locking tool very easy now years ago people where having them made from cad drawing uploaded on here which is what I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean17650199 Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 Okay so i dont know who tightened this crank pulley bolt but its not budging one bit, i tried the ignition bump way, i tried a locking tool but the two bits that go into the holes on the pulley started to bend, so took most of the front of that car off to fit my gun for taking lorry wheels into it and it still hasnt moved maybe this is a sign to drop a turbo engine in sooner rather than later, anyone else got any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 What happened when you turned the ignition with a breaker bar wedged in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanC Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 What worked for me was: Toyota locking tool 3/4" drive breaker bar (I used one of these and it held up ok: http://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/tools/hand-tools/halfords-advanced-breaker-bar-19-3-4-drive) My mate managed to get hold of two lengths of metal tubing kinda similar to scaffolding poles, probably about 5ft in length? Popped one over the handle of the locking tool and the other over the handle of the breaker bar and (took 3 of us in the end) my mate on one end and me and another mate on the other end and it gave. Had to take the bonnet off completely. Dunno why it was that tight - mental! Just an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean17650199 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 When i did the ignition start it just moved the engine up slightly and didnt fo any further. Ill try the scaff poles next, where can i get the genuine locking tool coz i think the one i have is sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Whifbitz sell the genuine Toyota locking tool or obviously your local Toyota dealer will be able to get you one. I think I paid about £90 for mine, worth it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Whifbitz sell the genuine Toyota locking tool or obviously your local Toyota dealer will be able to get you one. I think I paid about £90 for mine, worth it though. Hire it out possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Secure fitting socket with a breaker bar on floor and flip ignition, make sure you set it the right way so it doesn't fly upwards.....loads of people say not to do this but it works every time, its the way I've always done it. I did a similar thing to remove a flywheel bolt on a transverse engine but instead of using the engine rotation, which packs a lot of torque, I dropped the car on the jack and used gravity instead which I felt was more controllable and could be released by raising again quickly if things didn't sound quite right. It'd be interesting to know if the weight of the car bearing down on a long bar generates more or less force than the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hire it out possibly Lend it out possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Now i'm not exactly sure what he did but when we changed my cp my mechanic mate popped a cover off on the bell housing which gave him access to lock the crank, dont ask me how but thats what we did and off came the cp bolt with a 2ft breaker bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Hire it out possibly Lend it out possibly? Surely there must be someone in Scotland that has the locking tool which would be able to help him out, possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I did a similar thing to remove a flywheel bolt on a transverse engine but instead of using the engine rotation, which packs a lot of torque, I dropped the car on the jack and used gravity instead which I felt was more controllable and could be released by raising again quickly if things didn't sound quite right. It'd be interesting to know if the weight of the car bearing down on a long bar generates more or less force than the starter. I suspect more! only thing to watch with this is as the bar will be pointing down it'll need to on a surface that lets it slide outwards as it comes under pressure (if you see what I mean?) or the jack positioned in a direction that the jack/car moves to compensate. I have a tool made by my dad's cnc mate which is the usual bar but also has a turned piece of aluminium that fits into the recess of the crank pulley, this piece supports the 2 small bolts that the bar clamps down with, and also once the nut is loose it acts as a puller and removes the pulley completely saving that faff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean17650199 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Anyone got the lock tool theyd like to let me have a shot of all postage will be covered obviously and a bit for taking your time to post if not might just buy one incase anything happens in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I would be shocked if you managed to get it off with any impact gun Locking tool and you will be sound with the bolt Then just pray that the actual pulley comes off afterwards, get a harmonic balance removal tool for that I spent 2 days getting my pulley off, bent and ruined a harmonic balance tool and ended up with the holes in the pulley drilled out to M12 size as it was so tight the bolts kep ripping straight out, high tensile M12 bolts held in the end but the £30 tool was scrap afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Lock the flywheel through the inspection hole with a strong bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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