Steve W Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Is anyone running UK Front / Jap' Rear Brakes at the moment ? ? I think/know a few people were , but has everyone now upgraded their REARS too ? ? (I would like both but would rather just shell out ~£650 than ~£1400 ! ! ! - as long as it's not VERY UNADVISABLE ? ) FatS. [ ps. I understand the Brake-Bias thingy, but I'm also of the opinion that if you're heavily weight-loading the front-end... WHY do you want MORE braking at the BACK ? ? - pps. I don't normally HAMMER my brakes.. it's just that they're not up-to Pod/Woodbridge mayhem.... ie. STRAIGHT-LINE / DRY braking ! ! just want more 'heat-sink on me' front discs/calipers etc - already got the slight tremor of front discs warp from 100+ speeds ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 im in same boat. got uk front set up. would like to do all round for a new braking system with s/s hoses and new fluid. jap spec seem ok to me with new pads. but you could get uprated race pads and race fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 As the rears dont do much work in high speed braking, leaving ther Jap rears should not be a problem. I think Leon ran a UK front Jap rear setup on his car for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 just had the UK's fitted to the front and still running the japs on the back. Seems absolutely fine. I had had a wacky idea about seeing if the old jap fronts would go on the rear but I guess that wouldn't be possible. I think the pin that presses the pad into the caliper has slipped slightly as there is a slight clamping sound, only audible when reversing slowing. Is this fairly easy to just slip it back in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Originally posted by Snowman I think the pin that presses the pad into the caliper has slipped slightly as there is a slight clamping sound, only audible when reversing slowing. What pin would that be exactly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCresswell Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I have just finished my UK upgrade, Fronts done (calipers and disc's) with steel lines and standard pads, rear still jap spec but with ebc pads and steel lines, brakes are f^&*ing ace, really a big difference, also got fluid flushed through and used 5.1 im not going to do the backs this set up is fine, If i had loads of cash then i probally would do the back but not because they needed it, Its also fair topsay at this point that my car is standard power wise, and i guess anything above 370 -400 bhp may need more help, just to be safe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 Thanks for the feedback lads, I had to put the order in today 'cos me dad leaves there next week, SO, I thought, even if I don't want/need the backs NOW at some stage I'll have to renew the back discs/pads ! ! and, I'd have to pay ~£300 just for more Jap' stuff ? (of course I'll STILL have the Jap stuff as 'spare' anyway) SO, I've ordered the lot even though I might just fit fronts first. If for no other reason than to give others some more 'feedback' for future 'upgraders' ? ! I'll fit fronts... bleed everything nicely (including backs !) and give it all a nice try-out. THEN, I'll fit the rears and try to assess any difference. WHO has disposed of the 'dust-shields' completely, and, who has just 'cut-them-down' to clear the new discs ? ? ? ? FatS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Rip 'em off... Weight saving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 YEAH, 'spose it could mean that all-important extra 1mph ! ? ! (or, 0.1secs ? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 winnings winning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCresswell Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Rip em off no fun, try a grinder GGGGGGrrrrrrrrrzzzzziiiinnnnnnng! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 ......GGGGGGrrrrrrrrrzzzzziiiinnnnnnng!..... Isn't it hard sometimes to find a VISIBLE expression of a sound ? ? (is that onomatopoeia ? ? - never very good at English Lit' PASSED the O-level, but still no good at it:p ) I haven't found a REALLY good 'phrase for the Homer-Drooling-Noise... AARRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLL ! ! is about my best stab so far.... ? ? But that doesn't LOOK gutteral enough ! ! [i know this has nothing to do with UK spec' brakes but..... ..........I DON'T CARE:innocent: ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 Originally posted by Steve W [i know this has nothing to do with UK spec' brakes but..... ..........I DON'T CARE:innocent: ] your thread mate, say what you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 UK front & J Rears & I challenge any UK alrounder to out-stop me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 oooof...... Fisticuffs at DAWN ! ! ! I'll have me camera charged if there's any takers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 I also challenge anybody to get the brake dust off my front wheels:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 autogleem Clean wheels. Just spray it on and leave it for a few minutes, top stuff. As for the pin, I think from what I can remember its just a small bent clip, when you did the upgrade John did you notice the clip that locates the pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 You can get pad-knock when reversing, particularly is you run without shims. Hopefully the following image isn't too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Hi John and thankyou. Pad knock is what it is then. sorry for being so non technical but what are shims and do I need them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Pad knock is what it is then The pads click as you press the brake pedal while reversing. The only parts you NEED to have are the two pins 47748B, the spring clip that holds the pins in 47748A, and the anti-rattle spring 47748. The shims 47744 and 47745 cut down brake squeel. If you fit everything correctly and run standard pads, all should be quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Thanks John. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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