lui Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 went to jap show this weekend at sandown there was one chap selling these Fuel Cat in Line Octane Booster on which he claim turns normal unleaded 95 octane into 100 octane & once fitted in the fuel line last for 100,000 miles before needed to be changed are these units any good instead of running car on optimax or are these gadgets a load of crap please hepl with advice Many thanks Lui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Oil of the snake anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 are these gadgets a load of crap yes!!! however - iirc, there have been many investigations...search on google for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Jesus he wasn't selling magnets as well by any chance ???? He should stick to ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 went to jap show this weekend at sandown there was one chap selling these Fuel Cat in Line Octane Booster on which he claim turns normal unleaded 95 octane into 100 octane & once fitted in the fuel line last for 100,000 miles before needed to be changed are these units any good instead of running car on optimax or are these gadgets a load of crap please hepl with advice Many thanks Lui I BOUGHT ONE FELLA, MATE GARY HAS AN MR2 TURBO, HAS BEEN UPGRADED AND BEEN TOO ABBEY M/SPORT WITH THE FUEL CST FITTED AND THEY IT WORKS!!! GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME FELLA, NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU ALSO GET A 5000M TEST PERIOD MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I BOUGHT ONE FELLA, MATE GARY HAS AN MR2 TURBO, HAS BEEN UPGRADED AND BEEN TOO ABBEY M/SPORT WITH THE FUEL CST FITTED AND THEY IT WORKS!!! GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME FELLA, NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU ALSO GET A 5000M TEST PERIOD MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. And just EXACTLY how do they know it works? ALSO PLEASE STOP WRITING IN CAPITALS...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 SORRY HEE HEE, by using a higher grade of fuel it burns easier and shows on an A,F,R meter and on E,G,T, as your engine temp dropss aswell when compared to using 95 RON which burns at higher temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 So they didn't test the fuel itself? And did they do back to back runs with optimax and then regular? Surely if this item was to work, then people would still be better off running it with optimax as it would then increase the RON/MON value of that fuel even further? No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 yes!!! however - iirc, there have been many investigations...search on google for details Well I searched on google and didn't find fuel cats, but I found fuel made from cats http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1713598,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 So they didn't test the fuel itself? And did they do back to back runs with optimax and then regular? Surely if this item was to work, then people would still be better off running it with optimax as it would then increase the RON/MON value of that fuel even further? No? oh yes fella,, but they are saying that you dont have too put in optimax, you can just use regular, if you use optimax it shows 102 RON, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'll say it again, Oil of the Snake..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 EACH TO THEIR OWN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3xt3r Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 There are some investigations with your uk trade office about this scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 SORRY HEE HEE, by using a higher grade of fuel it burns easier and shows on an A,F,R meter and on E,G,T, as your engine temp dropss aswell when compared to using 95 RON which burns at higher temp. BOLLOX! High Octane fuels tend to burn slower. Proving octane with afr? hows that done then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If this is such a revolutionary idea, could someone please explain to me why the biggest motor part manufacturers and distributors in the world are not selling it too? I wll tell you why. It is because it is a load of bollocks and can only be sold by scammers who play on the naivety of certain members of the GP who will buy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If this is such a revolutionary idea, could someone please explain to me why the biggest motor part manufacturers and distributors in the world are not selling it too? I wll tell you why. It is because it is a load of bollocks and can only be sold by scammers who play on the naivety of certain members of the GP who will buy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURT Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 BOLLOX! High Octane fuels tend to burn slower. Proving octane with afr? hows that Idone then? KEEP YOUR PANTS ON FELLA!!!! i dont know, ask them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 This one did the rounds on the mr2 forum a few months back, someone dug this link out. https://www.oft.gov.uk/News/Press+releases/2000/PN+42-00.htm Does this mean that putting a coloured stripe down my car will make it go faster as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I guess that puts that to bed then...untill the next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Nice one Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I've looked into this one closely in the past. In fact I have a bag of 'fuel cats' in the tank of my bike, had them in for 5 years. I also had these pelets in the Calibra's tank. I know from a reliable friend that they work - sort of. They are not as effective on all kinds of fuel, and they certainly don't increase the octane number, lol. But they probably do something that pushes the detonation limit upwards. If you have a n/a engine and high CR, you know when it pings, it's always at the same load point, same revs, same gear, and it varies with fuel quality. So with SUL you can tell immediately. Same as these 'fuel cat' things, they had a similar effect on his car, bringing 95RON fuel half-way to SUL. He had it in a version inline before the fuel rail. Then he fitted a SECOND one, and the det limit went up even further, so the damn things probably do something. I can't tell myself though, because I didn't do before/after tests, had them in since day one. You cannot take out the in-tank pellets, that's the thing. I'm not sure if this is in the same category as the various "magnetisers" and the rest. I'd spoken to the guy on the phone, and he never claimed an octane increase, just a varying 'stabilising' effect, especially when fuel is stale. He said that sometimes this effect is similar to that of extra octane --- maybe it's all bollox though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 my dad bought a magnet that clamps around fuel pipe. i see them on QVC they sounded good.i tried some of that snake oil fuel/oil treatment in my supra supposed to give a slight increase in hp and also breaks down the carbon build up in engine. lol they even put 2 engines in a solid block of ice.1 with treatment and 1 without. they tried starting both engines. the one with treatment started. i was sold and bought some. you never know when your engine will be in a block of ice. they even showed dyno before and after treatment think it was called motor up. i also used to use small octane boosters when going racing.dont think they were any good.if you want higher octane buy race fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 John, after reading this: "...However, the RAC report did conclude: 'None of the claims made by Clockwork Orange Limited in respect of Fuel Cat have been substantiated. Furthermore, there are good theoretical considerations and existing knowledge which lead to the conclusion that tin alloy pellets in the fuel tank of a vehicle or fitted in the fuel line, with or without a magnet, will not have any effect on combustion and therefore cannot affect fuel consumption, exhaust emissions, gasoline octane number, exhaust valve seat recession or exhaust catalyst life.' Can you tell me which part of the claims does your "reliable friend" say actually work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Can you tell me which part of the claims does your "reliable friend" say actually work? No CJ, I can't. He had no reason to lie to me, and he was (still is) knowledgeable enough. I don't have my own conclusive results, as I've already said. It was this sort of 'tin pelets' yes, and rumour had it that jap 'pocket rockets' had them in the fuel tanks from the factory. Maybe that was an urban myth as well, I never cut up a scoobie tank and saw anything myself. The whole thing is probably claptrap, I'm just keeping an open mind because of my friend's testimony. He was actually considering buying a *third* one to fit it in series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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