a98pmalcolm Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Hey all.. Im looking at replacing my crank pully damper due to the power of the car and all the ones i have seen fail recently. So i was looking at the Fluidamper and Titan Motorsports damper. Cant decide on the 2 so I was wondering if anyone has used either, which one could be better than the other ect Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keron Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The titan is just a ati pulley like hks etc. Just rebranded ati I've never had any issues with a stock new genuine or a ati. Not had any fluidampers so can't say really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Fluidampr installed here and very happy with it. It's full dampened like stock and is weightier than my old Boost Logic one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Just buy a new genuine one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Fluidampr on both my cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andz222 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Fluidamper all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Fluidampr fitted for about 2 years now, no problems with it. Went with this as it's one piece so no chance of speration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 Thanks fellas. Sounds like fluidamper is the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 ATI Damper, all good get the one on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Unless you are stroking the crank the stock damper *WILL* be tuned to the harmonics of the engine correctly. A Fluidamper is a broad band tuned damper and unlikley to be anything like as effective as one carefully tuned to damp particular resonances. Unless you have and understand the needs for a none stock damper I would never fit anything other than an OE one.Engine power is pretty much irrelevant, the damper neither knows nor cares about that, it only "feels" harmonics in the crank as it twists and untwists, and if designed correctly the outer ring's inertia damps these oscillations to a point of none self harm, or runaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8KILR Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Don't the stock dampers have a tendency to crack and fail over time. I use a Fluidamper for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 A good treatise on dampers here by people qualified to comment, and who are not trying to sell you one: http://www.bhjdynamics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) Don't the stock dampers have a tendency to crack and fail over time. I use a Fluidamper for that reason. Over 20 years... I never understood the Fluidamper or the ATI one. They are multi fit items, meaning that they fit various different cars with the centre plate changing. Surely that means they are in no way tuned to the specific needs of the 2JZ, as they are universal. A stock OEM one can be had for £220+vat, why spend more on one which isnt really designed for the engine? Edited May 14, 2017 by Ric (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a98pmalcolm Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Over 20 years... I never understood the Fluidamper or the ATI one. They are multi fit items, meaning that they fit various different cars with the centre plate changing. Surely that means they are in no way tuned to the specific needs of the 2JZ, as they are universal. A stock OEM one can be had for £220+vat, why spend more on one which isnt really designed for the engine? Because I can get the Fluidamper trade price from our US supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 You have it Ric, that's precisely it. Having said that some high level drag race series insist on some none stock rotating parts or rotating constraining parts. Although it's hard to know where to draw the line, my drag racing pal told me someone in the spectator area was"shot" by an escaping V8 push rod recently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Don't the stock dampers have a tendency to crack and fail over time. I use a Fluidamper for that reason. As has been said, it's generally very old age that kills them. Personally I view them as a 5 year maximum service item, along with the belts. Pattern ones are common now, and people have had mixed results with these. Personally I would always go stock, but I think there was at the veryeveryeast a bad batch of oem ones, as I've heard of a few failing in a short amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Over 20 years... I never understood the Fluidamper or the ATI one. They are multi fit items, meaning that they fit various different cars with the centre plate changing. Surely that means they are in no way tuned to the specific needs of the 2JZ, as they are universal. A stock OEM one can be had for £220+vat, why spend more on one which isnt really designed for the engine? Why do they need to be tuned to the specific needs of the car? Surely if the purpose and method is the same then there's no reason for it not to be universally compatible. A good review here. Heavier than stock damper too but note comments about a smoother more balanced crank and similar power. http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/3972/Fluidampr-The-Independent-Test.aspx Fluidampr for me and its maintenance free too so why risk anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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