Best Wax and Detailer

[Sheefa]

Evening all

 

So after a good evening session my car is nice and clean (Carlack shampoo and nanotech treatment) and I've just had a 2 hour clay bar session (Meguiars) and overall great results.

 

BUT, given I use the car a maximum of 1000 miles per year I'm looking for some new premium options that are way above standard off your shelf stuff.

 

My car is garaged and never sees rain intentionally. I'm looking for the best clay bar going and a premium detailer too please. I want something that will truly last and looks stunning.

 

Maximum budget for clay bar and detailer is £500.

 

What you recommend?

 

Thanks

Greg

 

 

Edited April 14, 2017 by Sheefa (see edit history)

[Chris Bailey]

Adam littler would be the guy to speak to.

 

That's come up lovely in the picture mate. Silver looks grear great when it's clean!

[Sheefa]

Adam littler would be the guy to speak to.

 

That's come up lovely in the picture mate. Silver looks grear great when it's clean!

Thanks mate. To be fair after NEC Classic Car show she's has only done about 100 miles! I'll drop Adam a PM but he's too busy buying M5's, GT3s and RS6s now for my little bar of wax [emoji6]

 

 

[peter richards]

clay bar is a clay bar , comes in different grades for whatever you want but none of them are expensive . and all they do is prep the paintwork for whatever polish / wax you want, did you clay it after you done the nano treatment , if so you just took it off .

[Sheefa]

Thanks Peter. What would you suggest then after having a full clay bar session in terms of best premium wax and protectant?

 

 

[peter richards]

there are a lot of nano products around , and ceramic coatings , i dont use any of these as im mobile , so havnt got cover to apply them properly . so for me its conventional products greg

so its wash

de contaminate

clay

seal

wax

in that order

[Sheefa]

Ok thanks mate. Can you PM some of your best available options.

 

 

[peter richards]

as im dodo authorised i use dodo supernatural as my top wax 100% carnauba , probably get 3 months before a top up . sealant /polish i use duragloss .

clay is either meguires mild . or ive got a few different strong ones if i need to get overspray off prior to machining

[peter richards]

my cars been sat in my garage for six months , but i waxed it before i took it off the road , dodo supernatural . so when i re tax it , itll be a quick dust off probably a QD and away to go . looking at your pic , it looks in excellent condition , so it wont need much to keep it like that especially as you dont use it a lot , same as mine , so dont go spending out to much on something your only going to use a small amount of

[peter richards]

top end waxes , so many and can be expensive , are they as good ? the argument rages on greg , been like that for years , bit like willy waving.

i do some dealer work for audi , and preped a Q7 last year , done a full williams F1 ceramic coat to this , the owner from london hated it . when he changed it this year for another Q7 he asked me to go back to dodo which i did . so just to give you an idea , marketing for these new products is strong and look good .

[Frank Bullitt]

Sorry to jumping on your thread Greg but I just wanted to ask Peter a quick question about willy waving Peter, what are your thoughts on Kamikaze collection, specifically the ISM?

[peter richards]

aaaaaaaa mate i had a customer of mine , his kids got it for his birthday , i done a bit of research on line in regards to applying this stuff , and unless you have a good dry place to keep the car overnight , cureing time once applied its impossible to do . so i declined the job as i didnt want to mess it up .some of these new coatings can be fiddly to apply properly

as i said to greg im mobile so this new stuff is not on my radar .

[Sheefa]

Sorry to jumping on your thread Greg but I just wanted to ask Peter a quick question about willy waving Peter, what are your thoughts on Kamikaze collection, specifically the ISM?

Willy Wave away my good friend !

 

 

[peter richards]

a lot of the new stuff is very hydrophobic and sheets water away . i know its old school but its suprising how many customers like seeing beeds on the car .

 

so maybe point to note greg yours isnt going to get deliberately wet so would you need any of these

[Frank Bullitt]

aaaaaaaa mate i had a customer of mine , his kids got it for his birthday , i done a bit of research on line in regards to applying this stuff , and unless you have a good dry place to keep the car overnight , cureing time once applied its impossible to do . so i declined the job as i didnt want to mess it up .some of these new coatings can be fiddly to apply properly

as i said to greg im mobile so this new stuff is not on my radar .

 

Would you say it is over priced or is it actually worth the sort of money it sells it for? Looking at some of the detailers who offer it in their range you are looking at some serious £££'s. It's hard to know if the final results justify the cost. The ISM can apparently give up to 36+ months durability. It all seems a bit far fetched to me.

[manny]

My Supra is also 199 silver and is only used in the dry for 1500 miles max each year.

I give it a coat or two of Victoria Concours wax once a year which produces everything from a dark silver look (almost like quicksilver) to a bright glowing silver depending on the light. I use Dodo Juice Red Mist occasionally after washing which adds to this effect. Never bothered with any semi-permanent coatings as it looks so good as it is and with dry use only it's not really needed.

[HarleyFDMD]

I have always used the Meguiars ultimate range. Its not super expensive but it does do a very good job. Recently though i did fancy a nice hard wax and bought a tub of swissvax best of show.

It was £65 and its tiny but the results were amazing. It is a show wax though and so doesnt last long but that probably wouldnt matter if the car isnt being used frequently.

 

Swissvax have quite a large range of waxes ranging from £40 up and over £500.

I have no experience with the super expensive stuff though

 

 

[peter richards]

most product makers will exaggerate the durability , it will sell the product , just be a bit sceptical over the claims . normal hand wax 3 months tops and if you wash weekly less than that , and as said the expensive stuff even less .

cant really comment on the kamikasi mate , i didnt do the job back last year , and as these are reletively new its only time that will tell if they are worth the money .

[peter richards]

see if christian (stonkin) comes on , be interesting to hear his views. maybe he will have had some experience with the new coatings as he has indoor facilities .

[rider]

Greased Lightneing are doing a 20% discount this weekend on their products, which includes Shrowroom Shine that I use myself as a quick polish. Discount code is EASTER20.

 

https://www.greasedlightning.co.uk/

[Burna]

You do realise it's silver Greg? :/

 

Have a word with Jake Cousins too, his came up lovely the other day on facebook.

[supraGZaerotop]

I use auto finesse illusion as my lsp on my supra, previously machine polished it with meguiars 205 finishing Polish just to take out a few wash marks, you could always apply a sealant and then top with a wax for overkill

[Littler]

Adam littler would be the guy to speak to.

 

That's come up lovely in the picture mate. Silver looks grear great when it's clean!

 

Thanks mate. To be fair after NEC Classic Car show she's has only done about 100 miles!  I'll drop Adam a PM but he's too busy buying M5's, GT3s and RS6s now for my little bar of wax [emoji6]

 

/QUOTE]

 

 

Car is looking well Greg!

 

From my perspective it's the following (Peter has covered it too) that needs to be answered Greg, happy to advise where I can

 

- Wash - will come back to this

 

- Decontamination - this is tar remover, fallout/iron remover and then clay bar for any remaining contaminates

 

- Correction - what level do you want the paint at as this will determine whether you require a full wet sand process, compounding, polishing or refining (different detailers do call it various stages), this then includes a residue removing phase to ensure no polishing oils are left

 

- Protection - do you want a semi-perminant coating or would you like to apply a sealant and/or wax every so often?

 

- Maintenance - this stage after all the above it what really effects the longevity of any level of correction or protection, most scratches/marring are incurred through improper washing and then drying, once all of the above is done you want to keep it that way

 

 

I'll happily PM you what I use in various scenarios in detail so just let me know, but to summarise it is as below:

 

- Daily drivers - full correction including wet sand, complete exterior paint protection film (PPF) on top of this I have the CarPro Cquartz coating which makes washing a breeze (I have Kamikaze stance rim coat on the wheels, Kamikaze Intenso on the windows and CarPro DLUX on the trim)

 

- Special cars - again full wet sanding and paint correction, followed by Ammo Reflex (base layer), Ammo Skin (sealant) and Ammo Creme (wax) (which isn't too expensive for what kind of products they are it's just a pain to get them from the US).

Edited April 15, 2017 by Littler (see edit history)

[berg]

Collinite 476S is the wax i use

 

I had a tub of Dodo Juice that cost me £50 but it never made it any better than the Collinite did, so i stuck with that and a third of the price too

 

Still have the same pot 3 years on

[Sheefa]

Thanks all will take a look later mental BH weekend