for sale Single Turbo 6 speed £5k price drop

[rider]

This car has been advertised in Glasgow for a good few months. Just reappeared on Autotrader with a £5k price drop. Seems singles aren't finding new homes easily these days at the premium they once commanded over the stock original. Maybe oversupply took over with one and under supply with the other? Now a sub £20k advert.

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201611189885288?make=TOYOTA&model=SUPRA&logcode=p

[CarlT67]

I'd say it more depends on the car not weather it is single turbo.

 

To me that looks a bit of a mess that's been thrown together hence it's not selling.

 

For £20k plus supra it would have to be an extremely nice well kept example.

[Dnk]

I see the name Turbofit in the advert which can't help along with the state of the engine bay and the awful cage

[nolizma]

I have to say,

This is a nice spot for the cup holder!

[conorj]

I'd say it more depends on the car not weather it is single turbo.

 

To me that looks a bit of a mess that's been thrown together hence it's not selling.

 

For £20k plus supra it would have to be an extremely nice well kept example.

 

This ^^

 

Some poorly executed or marmite mods there, and everything looks tired especially that engine bay.

[Peter P]

Plus dated technology plays a part surely? T88's are notoriously laggy compared to modern day offerings.

[Scooter]

Peter, as an ex ISF owner what do you think re the prices of Supra bpu TT manuals exceeding a nice used ISF? I know that relatively speaking an ISF is 'just' a high powered saloon a la M3 etc and is auto (although a very good flappy paddle one) but to me they start getting an attractive ownership proposition, hell a decent auto TT is starting to get up to a leggy ISF (and they seem good for the miles?).

[Peter P]

Peter, as an ex ISF owner what do you think re the prices of Supra bpu TT manuals exceeding a nice used ISF? I know that relatively speaking an ISF is 'just' a high powered saloon a la M3 etc and is auto (although a very good flappy paddle one) but to me they start getting an attractive ownership proposition, hell a decent auto TT is starting to get up to a leggy ISF (and they seem good for the miles?).

 

Hey,

 

Still got my IS-F as it happens! Lol.

 

Just had Lee at SRD install the PPE headersfor me. Should be pushing over 500whp now with those, the race hi-flow cat's, tuned intake and remap.

 

IS-F is a great car for the money. Modern styling compared to the Supra, better handling, and now plenty of tuning options. Going supercharger kit next if I don't get a good Supra deal! Lol.

 

With current pricing on Supra's, IS-F is a great alternative if you need more room/practicality.

 

Lee will also hopefully vouch for the fact my V8 sounds meaner than hell! Lol.

 

No offence, but a straight six doesn't come close to a burbling V8.

[j_jza80]

No offence, but a straight six doesn't come close to a burbling V8.

 

Your car does sound awesome, I saw the SRD video of it the other day

 

But personally, you can't beat a nice straight 6 (okay, the LFA V10 just might). My Dad's E-Type (4.2l straight 6) has just been fitted with triple carbs, a long branch race exhaust manifold (header), and a straight through exhaust system with rear silencer delete, i'd put that up against almost any V8 in the sound stakes

[j_jza80]

That blue single isnt selling because, for want of a better term, it's a dog. Ancient turbo kit, dirty engine bay, and an unpopular bodykit in a brash colour. It looks tired.

 

It would take several thousands of pounds to turn it into something nice.

[Peter P]

That blue single isnt selling because, for want of a better term, it's a dog. Ancient turbo kit, dirty engine bay, and an unpopular bodykit in a brash colour. It looks tired.

 

It would take several thousands of pounds to turn it into something nice.

 

Spot on! Couldn't agree more.

[a98pmalcolm]

Far to much of a mess for that money

[Scooter]

Hey,

 

Still got my IS-F as it happens! Lol.

 

Just had Lee at SRD install the PPE headersfor me. Should be pushing over 500whp now with those, the race hi-flow cat's, tuned intake and remap.

 

IS-F is a great car for the money. Modern styling compared to the Supra, better handling, and now plenty of tuning options. Going supercharger kit next if I don't get a good Supra deal! Lol.

 

With current pricing on Supra's, IS-F is a great alternative if you need more room/practicality.

 

Lee will also hopefully vouch for the fact my V8 sounds meaner than hell! Lol.

 

No offence, but a straight six doesn't come close to a burbling V8.

 

Ah sorry i remembered the for sale thread! My old man just got rid of his Monaro and I agree the V8 noise is a nice change from the Supra. Also agree re the tech/modern side of things I'll keep keeping an eye on them I think!

[Peter P]

Your car does sound awesome, I saw the SRD video of it the other day

 

But personally, you can't beat a nice straight 6 (okay, the LFA V10 just might). My Dad's E-Type (4.2l straight 6) has just been fitted with triple carbs, a long branch race exhaust manifold (header), and a straight through exhaust system with rear silencer delete, i'd put that up against almost any V8 in the sound stakes

 

Thanks. The video doesn't do it justice though! Lol. Lee will tell you when you stand behind it, you feel it in your chest!

 

Love a nice E-Type. There's just something about a V8. Can't explain it!

 

Bet your Dad's car sounds awesome with that lot though!

[Peter P]

Ah sorry i remembered the for sale thread! My old man just got rid of his Monaro and I agree the V8 noise is a nice change from the Supra. Also agree re the tech/modern side of things I'll keep keeping an eye on them I think!

 

No worries. If you want to know anything about them, hit me up with a PM chap.

 

Happy to share my experience and answer any questions for you.

[Scooter]

No worries. If you want to know anything about them, hit me up with a PM chap.

 

Happy to share my experience and answer any questions for you.

 

Will do much appreciated.

[James]

That blue single isnt selling because, for want of a better term, it's a dog. Ancient turbo kit, dirty engine bay, and an unpopular bodykit in a brash colour. It looks tired.

 

It would take several thousands of pounds to turn it into something nice.

 

I'm glad to read this - I was recently told that mine is worth no more than this one because I also have a T88.

[j_jza80]

I'm glad to read this - I was recently told that mine is worth no more than this one because I also have a T88.

 

This car doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as yours The Greddy kit is actually very good from a quality point of view, and those turbos are nigh on bombproof. But If I remember right they started selling that turbo in the late 90's (might be the T78 I'm thinking of, but the T88 won't be much newer), and obviously the technology has moved on a great deal since.

 

Your car oozes quality, and looks like it has been very well cared for, which is sadly something you can't say for this blue one.

[Hemanhead]

I'm glad to read this - I was recently told that mine is worth no more than this one because I also have a T88.

 

Have no fear you're car is worth a good amount and is looked after. The OP just seems to have a vendetta against modified cars that are worth more than his sort of oem car, and questionable market forecasts. Don't know why tbh. Quite baffling.

[Scooter]

He is a bit anti mods, however the post raises an interesting point, that as prices rise there will (should!) be quite a price range opening up for what are on the face of it the same/similar spec cars.

 

A decent 'together' single should be £5-10K above another like this, at the moment the dross is being elevated with the good/clean ones. The thread on repaints, suspension refreshes, etc show the level of costs involved on stock cars, with singles you've got expensive clutches/ecu's potential diff issues to possibly add on top. Some cars to me just scream 'not worth buying' almost at whatever the price (not saying this is 100% one of them but there has to be better options even if they initially cost you more)

[Sheefa]

Have no fear you're car is worth a good amount and is looked after. The OP just seems to have a vendetta against modified cars that are worth more than his sort of oem car, and questionable market forecasts. Don't know why tbh. Quite baffling.

Yep, spot on. He's there to purposely aggravate modified owners and hasn't a clue about perception and reality.

 

I "sold" my car for the £27k advertising price when it was up back in November. No questions about the money, genuine buyer, his specialist UK mechanic was coming following day (buyer based in Ibiza working for Lamprell Marine Luxury Yachts) to inspect and make deposit. He was prepared to ship over at an additional cost of £3k to register too!

 

So in short ignore the OP bashing all the modified cars and saying they sell well below value. The good ones shouldn't and don't. His shed probably will.

 

 

[rider]

I "sold" my car for the £27k advertising price when it was up back in November.

 

That's a new concept in sales. Agree a price to transfer goods for cash and then keep the goods and don't get the cash. I never applied that principle in my business or to anything I have ever sold.

 

For the record because there appears to be some kind of conception that I'd assign as misconception, I think people can do with their property exactly what they wish to do with their property. In the instance of Toyota Supra JZA 80's personalisation is excellent, its only a car after all and a personal possession. Modified Supras do often end up being broken for parts providing an availability of spares which is great seeing Toyota aren't required to stock the new parts anymore. The more Supras that get broken for parts then the fewer Supras there are and that could, rather than does, lead to a higher value for those wishing to part with their cars in exchange for money.

 

I therefore do like modified Supras and have managed to pick up a lot of stock parts from ones being broken. Still, the facts are undeniable, they are finding it hard selling as complete units at the moment for the premiums normally applied, only a couple of years ago over the stock equivalent. That's a fact, a really simple and easily observable fact.

 

All this thread said was big single 6 speed Supra £5k price drop. That's big news and it could just be the cheap single turbo 6 speed someone is looking for, for a sum of cash less than several stock TT6's have been coming onto the market for these days.

[CarlT67]

I think most Supras take longer to sell now due to the price. Back when you could pick up a stock 6 speed for 7k what else could you buy for that money that is as good as a supra.

Now the best TT 6speeds demand 16k+

 

Thats a lot of money for a 20+ year old car especially as you have a lot of other choices available that can do similar speeds etc...

 

As the price has increased, the number of people who will want a Supra AND will pay the current market value has of course decreased.

 

If you have a Supra worth £25k+ you will have to wait for that person to come along and buy it which will take time. People don't want to wait and you get more money for breaking so if you have the time and space to do it. It makes sense.

[CarlT67]

I should add I personally like to see a supra sold and not broken. I don't care that less increase the value. More Supras and more variety is good! This forum is already a lot quieter than when I last owned one 2 years ago let alone when I joined.

[Sheefa]

That's a new concept in sales. Agree a price to transfer goods for cash and then keep the goods and don't get the cash. I never applied that principle in my business or to anything I have ever sold.

 

Not that it's any of your business but I provisionally put up for sale to fund a Datsun 240z hence informed every buyer sale was provisional. Datsun' are in excess of £40k for a good one. I have every right to transact how I please and my trader feedback proves I have strong selling standards thank you.

 

I don't disagree with everything you're saying but a number of single turbo cars have sold for full asking price outside of the forum, HJA, Jurgen etc being a few.

 

So, don't just look at people breaking cars as failure to sell as often the money in parts can be greater, simple as that. If you understand economics....