Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 I would appreciate any help you all have to offer... Picked up the car today from dudersvr - superb job and I would recommend on, just superb! M23 and a needy kick down to strike a 2.7T Audi off the list and nothing! Just zip. Issue is:- Running smooth. Turbo's sound like they are spinning (pleasant whistle), gauge reads up to 0 bar during acceleration and then flickers and will not go higher, car struggles and is totally flat. No dash lights all are normal - car is normal up to 0 bar! HKS Super dump gives off nothing really when accelerated or at a stop and revved. When I first noticed I thought the auto gear box wasn't kicking down.. Green Flag idiot - had a look for loose or off'ed hose - nope... but not a clue me feels... New FCD fitted today, thanks Pete arrived - nice;) Could the FCD hold the car back like this with out causing the standard cut affect and dash light display? Please help - desperate now the kit is on to play! I do not have the tools or knowledge to play myself under the bonnet but have eyes to look and hands to feel!? What hose if any could disrupt both turbos like this? I REALLY THANK ANYONE WITH A THOUGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 While my problem wasn't the same as yours, have a read through http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6572 Should at least give you a few ideas as to what to check. Are there any other symptoms? Black smoke? No other unusual noises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Thor - good man for coming back - no smoke and no noises -- running really well..urrr... well up to 0 bar and then flicker around there and whistles loudly like a strangled whistler. Dude I see you are on show... if you can add to help other please do m8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Ian C talks there Thor about a butterfly valve - that he another ! and that controls both turbo's , that your first was working and therefore this cancelled this out as a problem; perhaps it's mine! shit. Please let it be a hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Can anyone confirm wether the FCD could be responsible for this or not ?????????????? John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by dudersvr Can anyone confirm wether the FCD could be responsible for this or not ?????????????? John:flame Dev I think we need to know if you have had full boost since the FCD was fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Read this... and > I have now had 3 cases where the butterfly valve that diverts gasses between turbos has failed mechanically. Probably not a job you'd want to attack yourself, some tricky dismantling and perfectly accurate and heat shielded TIG welding required. Look down at where the turbo elbow meets the downpipe, there's a metal canister there with a small vac hose to it. It operates the valve in the elbow section via a quadrant, see if the quadrant has become detached from the rod it turns. There are ceramic parts within, and the assembly if bought new is VERY expensive > at one of the arm - the 'joint that allows movement' there's a protruding bit which perhaps should have pipe on it? oh help ... I can't even explain - look > there's no pipe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 yes - full boost pre FCD at 1 > 1.1 bar > in the paint shop for week and the FCD went on today. drove for 10 mins at motorway speed and - the problem arose... this is worse than your dog dieing - at least you burry your dog and morn... help!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Gavin I was just trying to discount the FCD as that would be the logical choice but it had driven 30-40 miles with no problem , cant see the FCD having anything to do with it as the ECU doesnt control boost does it , seems like a hose type prblem to me , this car had another hose problem that was sorted a while ago so thats the logical place to look . John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 The joint where I think maybe a pipe should be affixed to the arm to the cannister.... is found in 1. Looked else where and all seems ok... any under the heat sheild I need to look for or is this the FCD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 To the right of that circle is the canister on the FRONT of it should be a hose , if thats there follow it towards the front of the car and check all the hoses to and from the solenoid where that canister hose goes . John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Also have a look at my thread about the vacum connection and check those hoses aswell , the shiny thing to the right is the water pump for reference. John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Whilst I'm searching for answers do you still have that kit spare relating to this thread you offered Thorin m8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by dudersvr Gavin I was just trying to discount the FCD as that would be the logical choice but it had driven 30-40 miles with no problem , cant see the FCD having anything to do with it as the ECU doesnt control boost does it , seems like a hose type prblem to me , this car had another hose problem that was sorted a while ago so thats the logical place to look . John:flame Dev I was considering that the FCD could be attached to an incorrect wire(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Midlife Foot down - sudden loss of boost - car going along poorly - nothing above 0 boost This is DEF the same symptoms of the intercooler pipe coming lose - check down under the battery tray With an increase in your boost the extra pressure on the big hose causes the second large clip to come off It's very difficult to see as down in the dark I'll bet 50p on it m8 Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 FCD is wired correctly , just concerned a connection may have parted . I think that it is an IC pipe come off and if its not obvious it'll prob. be under the battery or in the inner wing (drivers side ) John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Just checked that arm - to the right a pipe off to the front of the car all neat and tiy as are all the hoses I've individualyy seen this evening. To the left of the arm, a joint allowing the natural movement - a nozel on the end of that which may or may not have a pipe attached - not there now. Is the arm itself propelled by a vacume pipe from the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 No , Now go out with a fecking torch and check the bloody IC pipes i told you it would be this afternoon , if your bigger neons worked they would prob throw of enough light to work by John:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 I'm not sure if the kids are crowding around the car on this suburban and civilised country road street because of the kit or because a 33 year old man with a touch not knowing what he's up to is fumbling in the dark - and now Paul/John the cooler - great Barbie touch - thanks daughter.. always prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 of course the neons - thanks dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Originally posted by Mid'lifecry'sis The joint where I think maybe a pipe should be affixed to the arm to the cannister.... is found in 1. Looked else where and all seems ok... any under the heat sheild I need to look for or is this the FCD? In your picture the canister just to the right of your circle has a rod coming out of it going to the left, at the end of that rod is this... EGVC There isn't any pipe thats affixed at that side but there is at the other side of the canister (right hand side of your photo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 PaulE.... and John who suggested first - you are the winners - big fu** Off pipe by the battery - the clip is off? And this proves that this Supra BBS and it's cronies is the bst in the K! :D :D :D :flame Dev :flame Dev :flame Dev STOP THERE DON'T WANT TO OVER DO HOW PLEASED I FEEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 YOU ARE THE WINNERS!!!LOL;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Mid, you are officially a nutter. So thats sorted it then? Glad to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid_lifecry_sis Posted April 19, 2003 Author Share Posted April 19, 2003 Thor - no - not a nutter - check out my nick name..... begings Mid.. I do apprecaite all of your very immediate help which made good reading.... I eneded up looking for a dead cat down that pipe you know.... all sorts of things run through your mind when all wrong doesn't it!lol;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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