Rz-S TT 6-speed. Another whats it worth :/ Sorry!

[leafy360]

Hey this isn't a for sale thread yet i'm just trying to get an idea of what its worth as im going to be selling and am not sure what to price at to be realistic. Added as much as I can think of right now.

 

Model: Toyota Supra RZ-S. 6-speed Manual

 

Year: 1997

 

Facelift: Yes

 

Mileage: 120, 939km. Approx 75,000 miles

 

MOT remaining: No Mot as we don’t have this in Guernsey

 

 

Modifications: Works Kai wheels bronze.

Glass headlights,

Uk brakes,

Tein Coil overs ,

Veilside sides skirts,

Do Luck front Bumper,

TRD Carbon fiber spoiler,

Hks Bov, Hks air filter,

Front mounted intercooler,

exhaust (not sure what make/model).

Pioneer FH- X720BT double-din head unit,

Hks Turbotimer,

Momo steering wheel

Leather seats front and rear

Boost Gauge,

Blitz boost Controller

 

Bad bits: Body work has some scratches on the sides and a slightly larger scratch on the passenger door. There is some slight rusting on the drivers side edge of the door panel. The front bumper was hit by some dick so will probably need replacing as it has cracked the fiberglass.

Edited March 9, 2017 by leafy360 (see edit history)

[rider]

Your location and bodywork issues and no MOT history will lower the appeal somewhat. Pricing really depends what kind of sale you want.

 

Quick sale £13k

Normal sale £14.5k

Not in a hurry sale £15k

If you are lucky sale £15.5k

If someone really wants a car just like yours £16k

 

I'd be interested in bidding you on any sale if it wasn't for the location and that is unfortunately going to something that will put a lot of people off. Do you have UK based relatives who you place the car with and run the sale through, that'd make any sale so much easier and probably be reflected in a much better final sales price.

[Frank Bullitt]

This looks like ClaireRZ-S's old car, is it?

 

Obviously the MOT thing might be a sticking point for some but that is easily remedied once back in the UK. If it was originally a UK car VAT will have already been paid on import but I'm guessing you need to be able to prove this to the UK DVLA.

 

Pictures of all the rust and damage would be good along with some pictures of the underside.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Frank Bullitt (see edit history)

[leafy360]

Yeah it's her old car I'll get some more pictures up when I'm free at the weekend. Yup your right on the vat.

[rider]

Excellent point, without proof that VAT has been paid over at some point in the cars journeys anywhere in the EU then VAT at 20% would be demanded by HMRC on import into the UK. You wouldn't be able to register the car through DVLA without a HMRC import document stamp proving no outstanding dues.

[rider]

Guernsey, speed limit 35mph.

 

"Guernsey's maximum speed limit 'not appropriate' Guernsey's maximum speed limit of 35mph (56km/h) has been deemed inappropriate for the island's lanes and minor roads. A strategic review by the Environment Department concluded that a lower limit of 20mph (32km/h) would be appropriate."

 

Doesn't sound like natural Supra territory.

[mwilkinson]

DVLA will have a record of the car when it was in the UK. It will also still have a full record on the VIN denoted by permanent export. So I can't see VAT or re-registration being too much of an issue.

[leafy360]

DVLA will have a record of the car when it was in the UK. It will also still have a full record on the VIN denoted by permanent export. So I can't see VAT or re-registration being too much of an issue.

 

Yeah I've been looking at it and you sound right as vat would have already been paid.

[rider]

Found this write up online which may be of some use:

 

A vehicle that has been out of the country for more than one year and has been declared as permanently exported needs to face several hurdles in order to return to the UK.

 

Import duties.

 

It is essential that Customs and Excise are satisfied that all duties on the vehicle were paid in the UK (or EU) before export so that it can be brought back into the country without further payment. The following documentary evidence should be adequate.

1.Original bill of sale showing VAT paid if any.

2.Original V5 (logbook).

3.Carnet de Passage. Make sure this is stamped by Customs before leaving the UK. They will stamp the top right hand (exit) box and the left hand (entry) box will be cancelled.

4.Bill of Lading or Waybill for outward voyage if vehicle is shipped by sea (but not by ferry).

 

As long as evidence can be produced then the vehicle will be cleared for re-import to the UK without any payment. Check Section 8 of C & E Notice no 3, available on the web.

 

Anyone going over the hurdles and negotiating potential pitfalls to swerve a big tax bill will be looking for a big discount on the price to make it all worthwhile. Which would make placing it on UK plates with a UK friend or relatives ahead of any sale a much easier route to market, unless there are buyers aplenty in Guernsey.

[rider]

Again, more useful procedural info for anyone planning on re-importing a vehicle from outside of the EU.

 

Procedure for vehicles re-imported from outside the EU - accompanied or unaccompanied vehicles shipped other than by ferry

There are two procedural systems in force in the UK. The undernoted system is used at Tilbury, Felixstowe and Liverpool. The other system is used at Southampton. I have no information about the other system or which system is used by other ports.

 

When the ship docks, the Customs Drug detection team will board the ship. They will question you about where you have been, what people have asked you to bring stuff to the UK and so on. Then they will check your cabin using a sniffer dog followed by a similar check on your vehicle. If you are not accompanying the vehicle, your vehicle will be checked anyway before it is unloaded.

 

For passengers accompanying their vehicles, Immigration will have been notified by the Captain if they are due to land at the port. If Immigration wishes to see anyone they will board the ship.

 

Once cleared by the Drug detection team it is necessary to clear the vehicle for duty. Make sure you visit the Port Customs Office if you accompany the vehicle.

 

Customs will assign the clearance of the vehicle to one of several routes. The relevant ones are

 

 

Route 1 - Vehicle with Documentary Evidence

Route 2 - Vehicle requiring a Vehicle ID Check

Route 3 - Vehicle with Documentary Evidence and with delayed clearing

Route 6 - Documentary Evidence not required.

 

Your vehicle will also be given an Entry No. in the format 1234567890F. The date this number is allocated is also important and may not be the same date your vehicle was disembarked from the ship.

 

Once Port Customs procedures are completed you should be given Gate Passes as appropriate for each person and your vehicle to allow exit from the docks.

 

A fee of £30 is payable to Customs for administration. If you use an import agent (often the shipping agent), they will collect this fee. They will probably make their own charge unless the fee is included in the shipping costs. An agent is almost essential if you do not accompany your vehicle as it will probably be put on Route 3.

 

Port Customs will send all information to HM Customs and Excise Central Office in Salfords - the so called Hub for clearance. The Hub Helpdesk can be contacted on 0161 2615518. They will always need the Entry No and its date of issue. Once clearance has been given, your agents remit would seem to come to an end. You should not have to pay any Customs Duty, Excise Tax or VAT.

 

The Customs Hub Entry Team will then send the file to the Car Team who can be contacted on the same phone number. The Car Team will issue the approval documents to you. In order to do this they require:

1.Customs form C88.

2.Entry Acceptance Advice E2.

3.Copy of V5 Log Book.

 

Although this should all happen automatically you may be able to progress the matter more quickly by faxing the documents directly to the Car Team on 0800 4960699.

 

The Car Team will also send duplicates of the approval documents to the DVLA.

 

Procedure for vehicles re-imported from outside the EU - accompanied vehicles shipped by ferry.

On arrival at the UK port you will have a choice of using the Red Channel (Goods to Declare or the Green Channel, No Goods to Declare). Go to the Red Channel and declare the vehicle for re-import. You should then be put on Route 1 above or similar and the appropriate action taken as above except you won't have an import agent to help you. The Documentary Evidence above will be required.

 

Re-registration.

1.You must have valid vehicle insurance. This can often be arranged on the Internet or by phone if you are not in the UK at the time.

2.Road Fund Licence and MOT. You will have neither of these. The best option is to take the vehicle for a prearranged MOT with a suitable garage for the date the vehicle is taken out of the port and ideally one which can make repairs in the event of a failure. You are permitted to drive to a prearranged MOT test without an existing MOT or current Road Fund Licence. Curiously there is no limitation on the distance to be driven.

 

Note that there may be a waiting list for MOTs. At Government testing stations run by VOSA this may be as long as 6 weeks. If your camper van is Class IV make sure that the MOT station has facilities to accept its weight. Class IV facilities are normally only for vehicles up to 3.5 tons weight

 

All MOT stations have a computer link to the DVLA database. As your vehicle is being re-imported you may find that it does not appear on the database. In this case the tester should issue a certificate using the VIN (or chassis) no. instead of the registration number

 

You will need to obtain form V55/5 by contacting the Enquiry Office of the DVLA on 0870 240 0010 (for delivery by post) or visit a Local Office (to collect by hand). Obtaining the form can be done in advance of your return to save time. It will be supplied with a pack of information.

 

When you receive the form don't be put off by the details you have to complete such as CO2 emissions in gms/km! Just complete the form with the same information given on the V5 (logbook) and leave the rest blank except for dates. Also put in the Registration Number you had before the vehicle was exported (even though the Guidance Notes tell you not to). Unusually, you can request either a 6 month or 12 month licence plus part of a month if you need it.

 

You will now have to post the following to a Local Office of the DVLA (addresses in the back of the booklet enclosed with Form V55/5).

 

Evidence of ID e.g.:

1.Counterpart Driving Licence.

2.Recent Bank Statement.

 

Vehicle Documents:

1.Application Form V55/5 completed in accordance with DVLA enquiry office advice.

2.Original V5 registration document.

3.Current MOT certificate.

4.Current Certificate of Insurance.

5.A cheque for appropriate amount made payable to DVLA.

 

Note that the V55/5 includes a Customs Form on the checklist. The DVLA do not require this form as they take the V5 log book as sufficient evidence that all taxes have been paid even though they receive the information from the Customs Hub. Keep copies of everything you send. Delivery of the Licence disk should take 7 - 10 days. On receipt of the Licence disk you will also have a Number Plate Authorisation Certificate V948. This enables you to get number plates for the vehicle (should these be needed) without the new V5 logbook which will be sent by the DVLA at a later date.

 

Of course if you are going to keep the vehicle off the road immediately you will need to declare a SORN in which case 5, 6 and 7 above will not be needed and you will should substitute Form V890 (from the Post Office) to do this.