AJI Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Here is your answer A lot of valid points being put across there. The whole idea of "political correctness" attempts to shut out alternative view points. However, these alternative viewpoints are just as valid to people's everyday lives - but the so called 'established' position attempts to make it 'wrong'. The problem with the liberal left movement that started as way back as the Blair government in the UK (that's back to the late 90's), is that the world has changed a lot since then and liberal left politics has caused a lot of division and hardship for a lot of people. So I find myself agreeing with some of that video content. If the liberal left wish to continue calling everyone a nazi who do not hold their left agenda views, then they are going to continue losing a battle they can not win. Given recent results, the Trump presidency is an obvious display of the rejection of 'political correctness' and suppression of freedom of speech. The Brexit vote is a similar result here in the UK - although here its more for regaining sovereign powers - but also many voted on grounds of control over immigration. Also many EU member nations are growing in numbers that are likely to vote against such lefty politics. So the 'fight back' is real and it is here to stay. Its whether it is realised or a case of continue to live in denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippyboyo1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 i like him, i didn't at first but for me its highlighted how much of a good guy obama was...... but thats all he was and that there was the issue. i think he was very neutral in may aspects unlike trump who is now running America like a business, he see's the issues which he aims to eradicate and move forward. We have seen obama be the nice man, the good man and trump could not be more different in his approach However id not swap places with him, i think he could achieve his goals and do good for the country more privately, its what id do simply to avoid becoming a target myself and ultimately i think the "bad guys" will now be looking to harm him as an individual rather than america as a country. He has massive balls but fair play to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 i like him, i didn't at first but for me its highlighted how much of a good guy obama was...... We have seen obama be the nice man, the good man I would educate yourself on Obama administration and their volume of Drone strikes, ten times the vol versus Bush They took out a vast amount of civilian buildings to take out one target , innocent families, kids, mothers, fathers , sisters , brothers killed ; collateral damage When you are at home tonight , you are relaxing looking at TV, Flash bang, ringing in your ears , rubble everywhere , blood in your eyes ,your family dead beside you, all because some guy two doors down was suspected to be a terrorist Obama is a far cry from a good man, he just had a good PR department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 for me its highlighted how much of a good guy obama was...... I just don't get that. Sure, Obama said lots of nice things, but right now, he's more monstrous than trump (and I dont like trump) Obama engaged in the largest drone program the world has ever seen, had no respect for national borders, and was effectively assassinating people across the world without so much as a trial. And thousands of innocent civilians were killed as a result. How many people has trump killed? Perhaps trump will prove to be a worse President than Obama, and I suspect he will, but right now trump is a choir boy next to Obama. And let's not forget, it was under Obama's leadership that the atmosphere was created that allowed trump to come to power, and I'm that context Obama's premiership can only be judged as a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krister Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 How many people has trump killed? Trumpet has been in the office for a couple of weeks, Obama was president for 8 years. Trump is a tool and I give him max a year in the office until he is kicked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoGlE Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Why do you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Now this man says this, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38996179 if you or I said this we'd be locked up under anti 'terrorism' laws for inciting violence or riots. Seem to remember it being a democratic vote for brexit, to take Krister's term he is a tool! He needs to butt out he's already damaged this country enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoGlE Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Absolute joke isn't it. Pathetic attempt at grasping on to what they've lost by inspiring hate for the brexiters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Now this man says this, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38996179 if you or I said this we'd be locked up under anti 'terrorism' laws for inciting violence or riots. Seem to remember it being a democratic vote for brexit, to take Krister's term he is a tool! He needs to butt out he's already damaged this country enough. Worry not, the EU won't exist in any recognisable form by the time all this is sorted. I half suspect that's what the government is hoping, drag their heels and save a lot of negotiating hassle. let's see what the French and Dutch elections bring As for Trump, perhaps not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but hell, has any president outside some banana republic ever had such a hostile media both here and in the States to battle against? I'd love to see him ban the BBC from the White House, just love to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoGlE Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Ohh wouldn't that be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Worry not, the EU won't exist in any recognisable form by the time all this is sorted. One thing is for sure, is that the EU needs to reform in order to survive. If it continues on its current path then many current EU member nations will likely be voting out. The immediate problem for the EU, and as collateral damage to us in the UK, is that if Le Penn wins in France then the EU is effectively finished. If France leaves then the EU will crumble. And for us in the UK this could well be a big problem. If the EU crumbles then banks will fail, the euro will fail and the likes of Greece, Spain, Italy etc. will either go bankrupt or will revert back to their own former currency that will be worthless. If banks fail and the EU economy crashes then this will deliver a new global economic crash much worse than 2008. People's savings will be lost and many businesses will go bust meaning that supermarkets etc. could go under and there would be panic and a new definition of chaos on the streets. Its not something I'd like to see in my lifetime. Hopefully however, western governments have contingency plans to either suppress the damage to a crumbling EU or have emergency measures to prevent the domino effect of bank & business failures. But how many of us would place trust in to such government's plans when the EU leadership itself is in total denial that it is currently failing as a project. Currently total refusal to any meaningful reform. I think we are currently living in very uncertain times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoGlE Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 If they don't change and it does fall then I guess I'm ok with that. I mean I wouldn't of liked to be my age now during the start of ww2 but that needed to happen and people accepted that for the greater good. Times will be tough I agree but times have been worse and we're still going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Things have to be desperate when they wheel Blair out to try and usurp the referendum result yet again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Ironic he says the people didn't know the facts of the Brexit etc, WMD anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Things have to be desperate when they wheel Blair out to try and usurp the referendum result yet again.... Yes, a man with such a good track record for telling and upholding the truth and doing the right thing! Hopefully people will treat this latest rubbish from him with the contempt it deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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