rider Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Its hardly relevant to the side discussion if you are a member of the 2CV owners society. Take a break and return to the topic in 10 years time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 We will all be rich....rich i tell ya! Well apart from me, i have cut holes in mine, blended a body kit and sprayed it two different colors. Ruined... I lol'd. Could anyone foresee a DB5 reaching £1mn? Or even a humble Toyota 2000 reaching top side of a £1mn as well? Some cars are just destined for silly money and I wouldn't be as dismissive of the Supra prospects as you are. Already there are prices regularly over £50k in USA and even now appearing in Japan ads. Its always going to be a desirable car as any car with film pedigree is and I for one bought mine before it became a cult car. No one buys a nearly new car for 'the money' so I never bought into a Supra because of the smoking YouTube videos that weren't around back then. No one is going to want to buy a car that was heavily modified a decade or more in the past which means the modders will need to keep on spending big money to keep their creation current. Those with the boring stock cars just need to keep them looking good and running good and sit back taking in the view. Here is a forecast from owning my Supra for almost 19 years and having several older classics, stock TT6's are on trend to be fetching in the UK regularly £35k to £45k in the next 7 to 10 years unless there is a general market downturn. The ceiling, that could be anywhere but its going to be pushing the e-types hard all the way and maybe even beyond. So, as an investment that you can have some fun in, a stock TT6 has got fantastic potential and no one can knock a car that will give cost free fun motoring with probably more on top. You honestly think stock Supras will in the future be thought of along the same lines as the E-Type is now?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 We are close to seeing $100k ads for Surpas now. They are a different car and era to etypes but on the value stakes the etypes are kind of where they are at. Supras are catching up fast. It'll be interesting to see if the first $100k Supra is a 800bhp version or a boring 325bhp version. I have my hunch but its only a hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Who knows what certain cars values will be in say 10 years time, who'd have thought old Range Rovers would be heading skywards or mk1 Escorts etc ? Who'd have guessed Lowry's stick men would fetch what they do now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 We are close to seeing $100k ads for Surpas now. They are a different car and era to etypes but on the value stakes the etypes are kind of where they are at. Supras are catching up fast. It'll be interesting to see if the first $100k Supra is a 800bhp version or a boring 325bhp version. I have my hunch but its only a hunch. The old WOTM Supra with well over 1000hp sold for around $120k a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 The old WOTM Supra with well over 1000hp sold for around $120k a few years ago. There were reported over $80,000 of mods to that car. I hear TT6 Supras used to sell routinely with no mods for £41,999 in the UK at one time to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemanhead Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 No one is going to want to buy a car that was heavily modified a decade or more in the past which means the modders will need to keep on spending big money to keep their creation current. No modder will have to keep spending on their car mate, 600bhp will ALWAYS be relevant, you cannot sidestep that. We are a long way from seeing most cars coming from any factory with 600bhp, 25 years on and the next Supra ( if its made ) won't have that much power. Those with modified cars will keep watching those with old twin turbo's blowing up - It still costs similar money if you are trying to stay OEM. its going to be pushing the e-types hard all the way and maybe even beyond. So, as an investment that you can have some fun in, a stock TT6 has got fantastic potential and no one can knock a car that will give cost free fun motoring with probably more on top. You are fond of the Etype, as am I, so is the worlds media and coincidentally so was Enzo Ferrari. Famously quoted as saying is was the most beautiful car ever made; which is something that has never been said about a Supra as much as I love them. It also shares Le man winning racing pedigree with the Dtype car. These things make it valuable. Other cars cited above, like range rovers and Escorts etc all have something in common....they aren't Japanese, almost nobody collects or invests in Japanese cars! You can pull up the 2000GT but a quick wiki reveals only 351 were made and at a loss too! As an 'investment' something Porsche, any 911 model with a Turbo on it will always be worth money, even the 996 eventually. Modded Supra have been sold for more than 100k already, people do love a modified Supra, they really are great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 There were reported over $80,000 of mods to that car. I hear TT6 Supras used to sell routinely with no mods for £41,999 in the UK at one time to. But you've flatly dismissed modifications as having any benefit to prices. Are you now saying that modified ones can be worth more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 But you've flatly dismissed modifications as having any benefit to prices. Are you now saying that modified ones can be worth more? I'm sure if you stuck a £1mn diamond onto the gear stick you could sell the car for £800k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 But you've flatly dismissed modifications as having any benefit to prices. Are you now saying that modified ones can be worth more? I'm sure if you stuck a £1mn diamond onto the gear stick you could sell the car for £800k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 But modifying cars involves putting money into them, so you've just defeated your own position. Besides, the value of e types you keep mentioning in this thread aren't harmed by subtle and sympathetic modifications, most e type owners will change the original boat anchor starter motor for an aftermarket one which is both much lighter and more powerful. Many fit power steering, modern ignition cool, silicone plug leads, different carbs, different manifolds etc, and the prices aren't negatively effected. All these things make the car a much better ownership proposition too. Many will pay more for an e type with a 5 speed gearbox conversion than for one with a 'matching numbers' gearbox. Thankfully, my experience of e type owners doesn't include much use of the word 'investment'. Most have loved these cars from years gone by, and would rather have it out for a drive on a nice day than sit around speculating as to it's its future value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) On what, crack smoking planet do you live? Please elaborate as to what gives you this impression. FYI, I'm also a member of the E type club Like this comment a lot. Baz aka Rider lives in a dream world where "his car" is better than everyone else's as it is stock etc, albeit an import with a fake UK scoop, and he pretty much likes to belittle everybody's modified cars. He is what you call a proper enthusiast (ic tw@t) in his eyes and has upset a number of members. Good for you Baz, keep your car stock and you'll certainly have the last laugh in 10 years time. Meanwhile I, and many others, will happily enjoy our modify cars as you age in your barn polishing your OEM queen with your Smash for tea. Please go back to the undiscovered cove you came from. Edited December 18, 2016 by Sheefa (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Greg, you are a special one for sure. Someone called you a bell end in another thread. I though that was harsh, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Greg, you are a special one for sure. Someone called you a bell end in another thread. I though that was harsh, but you never know. Yeah it was James, Littlenum a good friend of mine enquiring about the gearknob. Well done mate putting 2 and 2 together and getting 9 as always. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Seems mates, as always, know best. You really should chill a bit. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even yours is valid, Word of advice though, turn down the sensitivity gauge otherwise you may find it played with a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 1% of the American population believe in the lizard men conspiracy theory. 3 million people actually believe the world is ruled by an establishment of 6ft lizard bipeds wearing human suits, even though they have no evidence of any kind. Some opinions are f**king stupid, even if they are held by mkre than one person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Seems mates, as always, know best. You really should chill a bit. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even yours is valid, Word of advice though, turn down the sensitivity gauge otherwise you may find it played with a little. I am perfectly chilled out, not sure why you thought otherwise but alas another misguided comment. Also fear not you'd have to do a great deal to offend me and even then I genuinely wouldn't care given any comments derived from your mouth are drivel. Good day to you. - - - Updated - - - 1% of the American population believe in the lizard men conspiracy theory. 3 million people actually believe the world is ruled by an establishment of 6ft lizard bipeds wearing human suits, even though they have no evidence of any kind. Some opinions are f**king stupid, even if they are held by mkre than one person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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