Guest j42000000 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 hi guys. i have a question that has me baffled and i really need some advice. i have a 3.0litre automatic mk4 JZA80. It is listed as a non-turbo but when you put your foot down this thing launches into life as if it does, yet there are no turbo gauges? ive been told by other people that it could be a bi-turbo which makes more sense. I didn't know what the difference between a bi-turbo (bi meaning two) and a twin turbo was, but i was told the twin turbo consists of two turbos the same size and the bi-turbo has one large and one small turbo. However i have just been told today that it now looks like the engine from the 2JZ-GE which was also a non-turbo, yet it says online the 2JZ-GE is bi-turbo by stock? I'm so confused now. I am currently trying to sell the car but I don't want to give out false information. Can someone please identify my engine by the picture and let me know if it is a non-turbo or bi-turbo and if its a non-turbo why then am I getting a turbo like boost? Many thanks, j42000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2JZ-GE so the non-turbo engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Its a 2JZ-GE which is the non turbo engine, circa 225bhp from factory. The 2JZ-GTE is the twin turbo engine, circa 326bhp from factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Where do these idiots come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 As others have said its the 2JZ-GE AKA the non turbo version of the 2jz. How much are you thinking of selling it for and how long you've had it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Lol this must be a wind up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Bi-Turbo and Twin turbo are the same thing. As mentioned you have neither. The 'surge in power' is probabaly the butterfly valve opening up in the exhaust system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 That post has gladdened my day, just in case it disappears before we've all had a laugh, I here quote it and preserve it for history. [ATTACH=CONFIG]215851[/ATTACH] hi guys. i have a question that has me baffled and i really need some advice. i have a 3.0litre automatic mk4 JZA80. It is listed as a non-turbo but when you put your foot down this thing launches into life as if it does, yet there are no turbo gauges? ive been told by other people that it could be a bi-turbo which makes more sense. I didn't know what the difference between a bi-turbo (bi meaning two) and a twin turbo was, but i was told the twin turbo consists of two turbos the same size and the bi-turbo has one large and one small turbo. However i have just been told today that it now looks like the engine from the 2JZ-GE which was also a non-turbo, yet it says online the 2JZ-GE is bi-turbo by stock? I'm so confused now. I am currently trying to sell the car but I don't want to give out false information. Can someone please identify my engine by the picture and let me know if it is a non-turbo or bi-turbo and if its a non-turbo why then am I getting a turbo like boost? Many thanks, j42000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) The 'surge in power' is probabaly the butterfly valve opening up in the exhaust system? The Old Wives are really at it today. Edited November 23, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 My guess is that his previous car was a 1lt 60BHP job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Bi-Turbo and Twin turbo are the same thing. As mentioned you have neither. The 'surge in power' is probabaly the butterfly valve opening up in the exhaust system? Intake system* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam1 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 i've has my auto non turbo for 13 years now, I was really excited till I clicked on the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPreece Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Could be one of those V6 Turbo Manuels that pop up now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks like an Enzo engine, can tell by the 2 turbos and 4 super chargers, go well in hondas so ive heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The midrange increase in power/torque of the 2JZGE is down to the ACIS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Control_Induction_System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) The midrange increase in power/torque of the 2JZGE is down to the ACIS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Control_Induction_System Probabaly, a GS300............... When that ACIS valve opens! Edited November 23, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Yes sell it......not the car for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 It does beg the question: What the hell were you told it was when you bought it?! Surely there was a advert description or a conversation along the lines of "It's an NA mate" or "Why are you licking the windows . . . . . . . yes mate, twin bi-turbo and I'm not budging on the £20K asking price [giggles]" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 It does beg the question: What the hell were you told it was when you bought it?! Surely there was a advert description or a conversation along the lines of "It's an NA mate" or "Why are you licking the windows . . . . . . . yes mate, twin bi-turbo and I'm not budging on the £20K asking price [giggles]" I have a brother in law who owns a normally aspirated Jaguar XK, nevertheless, he insists that it has a supercharger because the salesman told him it had one, I have shown him what it says in the drivers hand book and had the bonnet up and shown to him that it doesn't have a supercharger, regardless, he closed the bonnet to hide his reality and insisted that it had one somewhere, because the second hand car salesman mate he bought it from had said so. And I dare wonder where they come from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I have a brother in law who owns a normally aspirated Jaguar XK, nevertheless, he insists that it has a supercharger because the salesman told him it had one, I have shown him what it says in the drivers hand book and had the bonnet up and shown to him that it doesn't have a supercharger, regardless, he closed the bonnet to hide his reality and insisted that it had one somewhere, because the second hand car salesman mate he bought it from had said so. And I dare wonder where they come from! Because we all hate to be wrong but some are more stubborn then others lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks like an Enzo engine, can tell by the 2 turbos and 4 super chargers, go well in hondas so ive heard Classic That guy cracks me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Intake system* Hence the "?" Wasn't too sure but remember someone mentioned something similar before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott.wild Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?328252-Supra-Specialists-nr-Midlands-UK&p=4089476#post4089476 This says its a non-turbo and lots of mechanics have checked it out mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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