Burna Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Brand new yellow bilstein shocks and J-Spec springs. Sits nice, squats nice under acceleration, and is a good balance between comfort and handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 What does CW suspension consist of? Is it custom or a mix of oem shocks and custom springs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 What does CW suspension consist of? Is it custom or a mix of oem shocks and custom springs? German Bilstein shocks and custom springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 German Bilstein shocks and custom springs. Custom valved German Bilstein shocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 German Bilstein shocks and custom springs. Revalved Bilsteins. I have a pair of CW custom springs sitting in my kitchen, I might start using them as a toast rack lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I believe Chris can also machine grooves into the dampers so that the spring seats (which are secured using a circlip) can be moved to adjust the ride height Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Custom valved German Bilstein shocks Ah very nice. I really like how mine is on stock suspension so maybe Chris Wilson is the man to see in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 The car will sit lower than stock on CW suspension. Chris can machine them to be height adjustable but like everyone says best speak to the man himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Take a look here at CW's comments regarding his suspension kits - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?335374-Help-with-Coilovers&p=4159316#post4159316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastcar Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 To be honest unless your planning on spending thousands (£5K+) on coilovers you won't improve the handling on your car over the standard bilstien shocks! Things like BC and Tein have an ok outer build quality but the internal valving of the dampers are crap! They just give you the feeling of better handling by increasing spring rates which there is no need to do unless you are planing on adding more weight to your car or planning on using slick racing tyres. The way to improve handling on suspension is all in the dampening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Style over function with low ride height and low tyre profile is where it all goes tits up. If you lower it more than 10 - 15mm from stock, the traction & handling will be worse. If you run less than 40 profile tyres, the traction & handling will be worse. If the wheel offsets are not very similar to stock, the traction & handling will be worse. If you don't have the geometry adjusted for any such changes, the traction & handling will be worse. If you run on budget brand tyres, the traction & handling will be worse. If you run road legal track tyres, a couple of leaves on the road will swap traction & handling for brown pants. Edited November 26, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Chris may think that Black Friday is a power cut whilst at the Pub. He does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I believe Chris can also machine grooves into the dampers so that the spring seats (which are secured using a circlip) can be moved to adjust the ride height He can, and does. Most people so rarely adjust their ride height on screw threaded spring seats they find they are seized solid anyway. It would be churlish of me to say Teins are crap, and rarely last 10K miles. But I am feeling churlish today, they are, in my humble opinion, crap. The valving in them is nothing like as sophisticated as even the bone stock black dampers Toyota fitted, let alone the lovely jubbly stuff in Bilstein Sports, the chrome on the piston rods is lousy, and the top seals leak, and they lose gas and knock. They are a nice green colour though, and the advertising and packaging looks great. I agree with what DavidP said above, it's really hard to make a MKIV handle better than stock, but REALLY REALLY easy to make it into a dog with no traction, a bone shattering ride, a propensity to follow ruts and white lines, wear out tyres for fun, and to suddenly step out of line mid corner and to give you a dose of the willies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 He can, and does. Most people so rarely adjust their ride height on screw threaded spring seats they find they are seized solid anyway. It would be churlish of me to say Teins are crap, and rarely last 10K miles. But I am feeling churlish today, they are, in my humble opinion, crap. The valving in them is nothing like as sophisticated as even the bone stock black dampers Toyota fitted, let alone the lovely jubbly stuff in Bilstein Sports, the chrome on the piston rods is lousy, and the top seals leak, and they lose gas and knock. They are a nice green colour though, and the advertising and packaging looks great. I agree with what DavidP said above, it's really hard to make a MKIV handle better than stock, but REALLY REALLY easy to make it into a dog with no traction, a bone shattering ride, a propensity to follow ruts and white lines, wear out tyres for fun, and to suddenly step out of line mid corner and to give you a dose of the willies. Stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabella Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 He can, and does. Most people so rarely adjust their ride height on screw threaded spring seats they find they are seized solid anyway. It would be churlish of me to say Teins are crap, and rarely last 10K miles. But I am feeling churlish today, they are, in my humble opinion, crap. The valving in them is nothing like as sophisticated as even the bone stock black dampers Toyota fitted, let alone the lovely jubbly stuff in Bilstein Sports, the chrome on the piston rods is lousy, and the top seals leak, and they lose gas and knock. They are a nice green colour though, and the advertising and packaging looks great. I agree with what DavidP said above, it's really hard to make a MKIV handle better than stock, but REALLY REALLY easy to make it into a dog with no traction, a bone shattering ride, a propensity to follow ruts and white lines, wear out tyres for fun, and to suddenly step out of line mid corner and to give you a dose of the willies. Yes that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 it's really hard to make a MKIV handle better than stock, but REALLY REALLY easy to make it into a dog with no traction, a bone shattering ride, a propensity to follow ruts and white lines, wear out tyres for fun, and to suddenly step out of line mid corner and to give you a dose of the willies. And that's the exact reason I did the engine, clutch, brakes, bodywork, stereo, wheels, tyres and left the suspension as-was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 My current Supra with CW suspension handles so much better than my previous car with Tein Mono Flex suspension. It's also a result of a good geo setup, 315 rear wheels with a 40 profile. I've 17" rear wheels and 18" front. The car is incredibly well behaved and stable at all speeds and conditions. My suspension is ride height adjustable, this was a custom thing done by the previous owner and is in the build thread somewhere (if interested look for thread by DanDan). As people point out, I will never have need to adjust it, so it seems quite pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) And that's the exact reason I did the engine, clutch, brakes, bodywork, stereo, wheels, tyres and left the suspension as-was. "18" Volk Challenge Wheels, 245/40 and 285/30 tyres," With 30 profile tyres and likely non stock offset wheels, you've probably buggered the ride and handling enough already? Edited November 28, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolizma Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I installed the HSD dualtech coilovers a few months back. I am very happy with them so far and a great improvement compared to my OEM yellow bilsteins with lowering springs. They were too low and quite harsh. The new setup is much more comfy sits at the right height and is all in all like driving a different car. I think my car became a lot faster after this as now i can carry speed even on B roads and really enjoy the car. Handles great and was relatively cheap too compared to other alternatives. Setting them up is quite important too. When I first fitted them the car was too low. Went to CW and explained what I wanted and after he set the ride height and adjusted the geo setup and alignment the difference was unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_k83 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I am using Tein Street Flex, had them over a year and are still good, using the EDFC system, so can make it as hard or soft as i need it to be. My preffered choice would be Cusco though, although they are closer to KW monies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 "18" Volk Challenge Wheels, 245/40 and 285/30 tyres," With 30 profile tyres and likely non stock offset wheels, you've probably buggered the ride and handling enough already? His wheels were very close to stock offset (looking at his garage pics and knowing the wheels) and for 285 in an 18, 30 is the closest ratio to the stock 255/40/17 rolling radius, 35 might be better overall but I think it's a bit OTT to suggest he buggered the handling by those choices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 "18" Volk Challenge Wheels, 245/40 and 285/30 tyres," With 30 profile tyres and likely non stock offset wheels, you've probably buggered the ride and handling enough already? Very light wheels,I went 235/40 and 275/40 in the end. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Very light wheels,I went 235/40 and 275/40 in the end. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 Same setup I'm running now, great combination of ride comfort, handling and grip. And looks of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Same setup I'm running now, great combination of ride comfort, handling and grip. And looks of course. Indeed! Good choice, Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 His wheels were very close to stock offset (looking at his garage pics and knowing the wheels) and for 285 in an 18, 30 is the closest ratio to the stock 255/40/17 rolling radius, 35 might be better overall but I think it's a bit OTT to suggest he buggered the handling by those choices! Anyone who thinks that 30 profile tyres on a Supra is an "improvement", should move on and get themselves a Saxo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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