nicky Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 There's a debate between me and my dad on supra vs gtr So my dads got a stage 4.5 Lichfield GTR running around 700hp - 600lbft torque, would a supra with a similar power figure beat it, e.g. A nicely tuned 6767 precision or a borgwarner s366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 In a word 'No' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 From a roll on launch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 LOL! no chance! the GTR has a much better read intelligent gearbox and traction control, and so can get the power down far better than any Supra could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 A modified GTR running good launch control is just brutal off the line From a rolling start depending on setups they could be more evenly matched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnPreece Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 would a supra with a similar power figure beat it Depends what you mean by beat it.... If you mean round the twisties then no If you mean on a quarter mile strip then no If you mean round the nurburgring then only if Big Num is driving it If you mean from a rolling start then probably not If you mean miles per gallon then I have no idea but id still guess no If you mean putting a bigger smile on your face then YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 With similar power levels, the supra would lose out on gearshifts if it's a manual. You would need more power to be able to pull ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_k83 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Too many variables... Its anybodys guess, if the Supra is running some big sticky slicks up back and decent launch control, it could be possible? Although GTR's are meant to be pretty sharp off the line. Rolling start, i think it would be very close either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hardly reasonable to compare eras, The Supra is to the GTR as a Shelby Mustang is to the Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackyBoi Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 As above really, GTR would win every time because there's 20 years of tech difference. Until Toyota bring out a new supra and directly target the GTR as is competition then you have an unfair comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicky Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 I said if I ever get one evenely matched power wise I'd put a grand on it so by sounds of it I'm a grand out of pocket thanks anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibby Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I recon supra on a roll would be a good run, Higher gears probably supra due to being rwd only less power loss But off the line, around the twists the gtr. Its a fab car. Come on toyota. Wheres our new supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) GTR would slaughter, like for like, wearing equivalent tyres etc. Give the Supra something like an SRD 8 speed or Whifbitz 7 speed swap, and it would be a better fight, but still in the GTRs favour. Even a stock GTR will give small single turbo Supras a hard time. Edited November 17, 2016 by j_jza80 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I said if I ever get one evenely matched power wise I'd put a grand on it so by sounds of it I'm a grand out of pocket���� thanks anyways Only one thing you can do... build a 1000bhp and say its 700bhp and beat him on a rolling start lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbt Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If I remember correctly Jamie P always said the Supra would need at least 100hp more than the GTR to have any chance of competing on a rolling race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) GTR would beat a Supra in most guises if matched in power. It would also be more consistent and safer to drive. I don't think that's a bad thing. As someone has already said there is over a 20 year tech difference. The GTR is a brilliant car and deserves it's place in motoring legend. Whether or not the new Supra will be able to claim the same is yet to be established, but I doubt it. Edited November 17, 2016 by mwilkinson (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_24 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Ive been side by side with a GTR on the dual carriage way near to where i live. It was stock and I can tell you, that car pulls like a train! My Supra is no slouch either. 6 speed, Borg Warner S300SXE twin wastegate, twin scroll single turbo setup. 660bhp at 1.7bar. One day I will own a GTR, absolutely love the car haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 To be fair my old setup was running 560flywheel power and a lad in his R35 GTR was running 600 and couldn't get away on a rolling launch from 50mph and above. The weight of his car definitely came into play. Off the line though I would of been murdered. There were multiple witnesses to this including glanza_mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemanhead Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 like for like on a roll, theres nothing much in it, the GTR is so fat and heavy, it has an effect. Seen Steve race Lee often enough, both around 800bhp and the Supra would win more often. From a dig, no, not without radials, then yes it would be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 We managed to hold of a gtr at Santa pod when we was running 607bhp. Although he did leave half a second later than us. Also unsure on his spec... I think a similar power supra vs gtr from a 60mph roll would be a close match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I've kicked loads of gtrs round various tracks, the best 1 was silverstone couple of years back.he had about 100 brake more than me then and I still whooped him and that was on my old engine. Its on my youtube BTW if anyone interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayside_supra Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Apparently if a stock GTR were much lighter than it is, it would be slower from 0 to 60, according to some engineers. More traction I guess, maybe it's not even true but heard it said a couple of times. I would think most Supra's would struggle. I would love to drive a GTR one day, never even been for a ride in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 My Supra against a 620bhp GTR from 50-130mph consisted of the GTR going about 1-2 car lengths ahead almost immediately, but not pulling any further than that. From a standing start, the same GTR ate me alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8KILR Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Here's my race against a stock 2008 GTR. Wasted him off the line using MT ET Streets. Edited November 18, 2016 by V8KILR (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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