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Article 50 can't be triggered before a parliamentary vote??


Chris Wilson

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I hope it does go to a vote in parliament. At least that will give some closure to the repeated calls of ''it was only an advisory referendum" from the moaners.

 

Parliament wouldn't dare vote against the referendum result, certainly the Tories and Labour will be whipped to within an inch of their life to vote for article 50.

 

The only danger is that they will try and keep us in tge single market and with open borders of they can, but all that will achieve is throwing a load of petrol on the almost extinguished UKIP fire.

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Looking like democracy is illegal. :think:

 

Playing devils advocate here... but whats undemocratic about parliament scrutinising the plans to leave? Surely having policy pushed upon us by government hasn't been approved by parliament that we have no idea of what it is is undemocratic.

 

Yes it will no doubt cause delays and anger leavers because of this but no one is saying that the original vote is to be overturned because of this.

 

Did you vote to leave without having any idea on how that leave process was going to happen or what the consequences might be? or did you just not care as long as we were out of EU?

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This is only going to increase the period of uncertainty that everyone in business is claiming is slowly destroying our economy.

 

I agree with you... although we've not really seen much change other than in the value of the pound thus far. I guess for long term investments for companies they would rather know sooner than later.

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Playing devils advocate here... but whats undemocratic about parliament scrutinising the plans to leave? Surely having policy pushed upon us by government hasn't been approved by parliament that we have no idea of what it is is undemocratic.

 

Yes it will no doubt cause delays and anger leavers because of this but no one is saying that the original vote is to be overturned because of this.

 

Did you vote to leave without having any idea on how that leave process was going to happen or what the consequences might be? or did you just not care as long as we were out of EU?

 

Overruling democracy would be a bigger issue than Brexit.

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Its all conspiratal tosh, just delay and overule the public, waste of time voting for anything in this country. If parliament gets a say, then individual MP's will be lobbied by business's to vote for things that they want in deals, nicely cherry picking what suits. Article 50 needs invoking regardless of these over paid bloody lawyers creaming more money out off the brexit democratic vote.

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This is good news as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully all of you old gits who voted out will die off before anything gets done and it can be forgotten about. :p

 

Perhaps if you 'young gits' had bothered to get off your arses and voted, we would still be in the EU ;)

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It was an advisory vote to begin with so it's not overruling democracy. Politicians are pondscum and pondscum is slimy so they needed to leave a way out regardless.

 

That said, they will not override the vote. Think of how strongly brexit voters feel about the whole thing and then think about how angry they would be and the riots they would start. It'd be like 2011 all over again. Maybe Boris's water cannons weren't such a bad idea.

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Overruling democracy would be a bigger issue than Brexit.

 

Agreed, but again who said anything about overruling? Surely they just want to vote on the context to how we are leaving.. we didnt get asked that in the vote did we. Or again, are you happy to risk things for the sake of it?

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Perhaps if you 'young gits' had bothered to get off your arses and voted, we would still be in the EU ;)

 

This is the sad state of our democracy the fact the numbers who didn't vote come close to those who did for either side and that so many are so disillusioned with the state of things to bother about it either way. Still, at least we don't have to pick between Trump/Clinton, it could be worse :D

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Agreed, but again who said anything about overruling? Surely they just want to vote on the context to how we are leaving.. we didnt get asked that in the vote did we. Or again, are you happy to risk things for the sake of it?

 

The risk is the UK government having to lay all cards on the table for everyone to vote on, this would likely be visible to those we are planning to negotiate with :(

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The risk is the UK government having to lay all cards on the table for everyone to vote on, this would likely be visible to those we are planning to negotiate with :(

 

I get that. This is a conundrum that needs to be resolved... maybe a closed parliament session with punishment of high treason by death to any MP who spills the beans :D

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This is only going to increase the period of uncertainty that everyone in business is claiming is slowly destroying our economy.

 

Am in business, with a good relationship with our accountant. The certainty of Brexit is much more dangerous to our economy than any uncertainty of Brexit.

 

Abandoning the public's decision however, is more dangerous than both.

 

We ourselves so it's time to chew on the consequences, it'll be interesting to see who we blame for this further down the line, you know, without all those pesky immigrants and so-called-elites calling the shots.

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