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servise next week - differences between J-Spec & UK spec?


IceMan

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Okay got the Supra booked in with Toyota for it's first service since I got it (about 6000 miles). I asked them if they needed any info to service the car but they said it should be similar to the UK spec car...

 

Now I know that technically some things differ (turbo blades, battery terminals, brake disc size...) but from the purposes of a regular "small" service are there any important differences?

 

I might take along the pages from the US service manual to get them to check underbody bolt tightness.

 

Cheers for any advice,

 

Ice

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If it's Toyota then they probably can't read the manual.

 

In my experience, there's no difference in opening the bonnet, p*ssing on the engine, shutting bonnet again and charging a couple of hundred quid, be it jap or uk spec :D

 

Sorry,

Paul

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Heh, I've read some horror stories on this board... however they replaced my front brake pads (after struggling with the Japanese microfiche to work out the parts) charging £113.47.

 

So I'll see how it goes... it's quite a new garage and they do service a few of the local Supras so I'll let everyone know how it goes next week.

 

Ice

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Toyota charged me an extra £10 an hour, making my service about £40 more than a UK spec.

 

Personally I'm with Paul on this one, so started servicing the car myself. Only part I will get done is the 60k cambelt change, and I'll take that to a specialist to do.

The service is only good if you want to get your book stamped for re-sale imho.

 

Also won't get the tossers going for a joy ride in it again.

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Personally I wouldn't confuse the issue by going up there armed with a list of differences that you get from this BBS.

 

If they are a Toyota dealer they will have all the data needed to order and fit parts for your car.

 

Tell them that it helps by looking at the chassis and vehicle code, after which they can use the spherical things in the front of their heads to find any parts required just as they would if it was a UK spec.

 

Cheers

 

Nathan

TDI PLC

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Final question on this: are Toyota on the whole good or bad for servicing? Obviously there are horror stories on here that I have read but has anyone had good experiences from Toyota and hasn't been bothered to post as nothing went wrong?

 

Living in North Devon I am a bit concerned as specialist places are likely to be 50+ miles away and I don't know who to trust. To get my alarm fitted I went to a place that Toyota, my family and a friend all recommended and they did an appalling job - the alarm kept blowing fuses as they connected it badly, the dashboard took some damage behind the faschia and the wire to the boot was so badly laid it could get caught in the jack!

 

I had to tape down and tidy the wire and I'm still not happy where it tucks down the side of the seat rather than anywhere neater (but I can't remove the black panelling with the rear speakers in so I can't tidy it further).

 

So can anyone give me any hope?! The Toyota dealership is new (clean), apparently services a few Supras and managed to do my front brake pads okay...

 

Ice

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AFAIK more than half BBS members experience of Toyota servicing is not brilliant. The Supra is a rare, so most dealers have very little experience of the car.

 

I asked my local Toyota garage what fluid to use in the auto box, they got the answer wrong. Had I let them change the fluid I might have had a big bill for a box rebuild. About a year ago I was buying some parts from the same dealer, another MKIV was in the fore court with the bonnet up. One of the staff in a Toyota jumper was trying to help the guy with a miss fire. He turns to the owner of the car and points to me and said, "You want to ask him he is an expert on these cars". I offered the guy my phone number but he never called. That convinced me that there is no way they are ever going to get anywhere near the underside of my bonnet.

 

There are some good ones around, so you may be lucky, just because some one has had a good experience does not mean it will be repeated. Staff move on and take their expertise with them.

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Ice,

I had no problem at the new Toyota dealer near Truro (Cornwall). When I first got my car, with unknown history, I booked it in for a full service and cam belt change, no extra because it is an import, very friendly people who genually showed an interrest in the car and the price was reasonable. No complaints here but I can understand what the others say. I guess it`s down to luck!!

Ian

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Originally posted by cashpoint

Only experience of a toyota dealer was when I got a flat while picking up my mat's. They knew excatly where the jack, spare wheel and wheel nut bar were if that's ay help:D

 

Bet you had to open the boot for them :p

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Yeah I guess I walked into that one :p

 

I'm not looking to upgrade the car (yet) so I'm looking for a regular air filter really. I expect if I ask Toyota to buy one/fit it it'll cost a small fortune.

 

So anyone got a helpful weblink?

 

Cheers,

 

Ice :looney:

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The air-filter is REALLY easy to fit (HONEST, and I'm not AT ALL

good at fitting things !:p )

 

AND, I don't think the Toyota one's too dear,

 

although I just use pattern (cheapo!) ones - Fram/Coopers etc

they really are identical to the Toyota one.

 

>> Toyota,

 

>>any 'Spares' outlet - Partco / Motex etc.

 

The Oil/Air/Fuel filters all IDENTICAL to UK spec

 

(as are OIL / Spark Plugs etc - ie. all service bits other than Brake

Pads are same).

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Just to add on the whole Toyota vs Speciallist, people may like to see a toyota stamp on their books, but you have to remember who works in these places and NOT to judge them by thinking "Its Toyota so their the best". You have to remember theses garages or any garage is only as good as the people doing the work, or working on your car. Take the best Toyota dealership around and compare to a speacialist like Leon. Then consider out of the 2 who will be working on your car, take it to Leon and you'll know he probably work on it himself, take it Toyota and then ask yourself the same question, and if your answer is I dont know, I wouldnt take it, as its probably the local YTS idiot that gets to mess about with your car, but thats ok, because toyota always check !!!!!!

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