Ibrar Jabbar Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I just bought a Lexus GS430 to do a engine swap into my black Supra and wanted to know if anybody can help with part numbers for the soarer engine mounts and rear sump which are required for the swap. Thanks Also any recommendations for a adapter plate to mate up the W58 box? Edited September 23, 2016 by Ibrar Jabbar (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra joe Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I just bought a Lexus GS430 to do a engine swap into my black Supra and wanted to know if anybody can help with part numbers for the soarer engine mounts and rear sump which are required for the swap. Thanks Also any recommendations for a adapter plate to mate up the W58 box? I didn't realise a w58 could be mounted ?? Did they do a manual v8 soarer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 They didn't but adapter plates and even aftermarket bell housings are available. see here http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/toyota/clutches/auction-1165283682.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdMorris Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Do you think they'll be the same as the 2UZ? I'll try and dig out the part numbers if ya want? Will be in a file somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudsey Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a good project, looking forward to this. I know you are asking for part numbers, which I don't have unfortunately. I do know though that you need the parts that come from a 1991 Toyota Soarer 1UZ-FE. As I'm sure you are aware the 3UZ, is the final incarnation of the original 1UZ-FE. http://dustrunnersauto.com/3uzfe/ A soarer 1UZ-FE as mentioned above will go straight in, later engines aren't as strong as the earliest version, and will require sump engine mount changes etc. Look forward to the project thread Some gearbox info here too: - http://www.lextreme.com/1uzfe_info.html Manual transmission section. Edited September 24, 2016 by Pudsey Link added. (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbt Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Ibrar Contact Konrad on this forum - he has completed this conversion and knows everything you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_bandido Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You will want to lower the gearing if using a w58. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) You'll need a Soarer V8 sump to clear the Supra cross member. I've listed the arm brackets and mounts myself and another owner used for our 1UZ VVTi, which were Soarer arms and LS400 mounts. The LS400 arms apparently were too wide for the Supra chassis. Could be different challenge for your GS430 motor though. I used the U1 bell housing that came with the LS400 VVTi V8 auto box, a Supra A343 TT gearbox mounts onto that with no adapter plate so your W58 should also. Prop may need shortening though. Your parts: Soarer V8 PAN SUB-ASSY, OIL, NO.2 12102-50030 Soarer V8 PLATE, OIL PAN BAFFLE, NO.1 12121-50040 Soarer V8 BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT NO.1 RH 12311-50040 GS430 BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT NO.1 LH 12315-50070 GS430 BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT NO.1 RH 12311-50070 GS430 INSULATOR, ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT, HEAT, RH 12391-50040 GS430 STABILIZER, ENGINE MOUNTING 12381-50070 (07/2000 - 07/2003) 12381-50071 (08/2003 - 12/2004) GS430 INSULATOR, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 12361-50110 (07/2000 - 07/2003) 12361-50111 (08/2003 - 12/2004) This combo worked well for an LS400 VVTi into a Supra chassis: Soarer V8 BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT NO.1 LH 12315-50030 Soarer V8 BRACKET, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT NO.1 RH 12311-50040 LS400 VVTi 2 x INSULATOR, ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 12361-50100 LS400 VVTi 2 x STABILIZER, ENGINE MOUNTING 12381-50080 Cheers Mike Edited September 25, 2016 by Delboy52 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't some models come with correct sump setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Thank you all, some great information here to get me started. I will get a project thread started up soon and update with my progress... Wez I'm not sure but the SC430 may have the rear sump setup on the 3UZ, however all the GS430 engines have a front sump setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 msmile has a r154 on the back of his 4.0 VVTi. He could give you some pointers on what he used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I am looking for a 3UZ-FE to V160 adapter, seen some on eBay and also tried contacting another manufacturer but got zero response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodalmighty Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Also Roger Smith who did the Thor TK0600 Tremec and R154 to 1uzfe adaption kits would be able to make you something, He did his own extenders and to run Mk3 supra boxes behind them too. A W58 would not faze him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 msmile has a r154 on the back of his 4.0 VVTi. He could give you some pointers on what he used. He has a W58 with a custom bell housing, not an R154. Ibrar, Msmile has a spare W58 to #UZ custom made bell housing and clutch kit if you are interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I was recommended TTV Racing for a flywheel solution :- http://ttvracing.com/products/?manufacturers=toyota&engine=toyota-1uz-fe&type=flywheels Also, the oil filter will likely foul the sway bar and require a relocation kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_k83 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Would a W58 cope with the V8 though? I have only just gone auto to W58 and everyone keeps telling me it'll blow up, even on stock power lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 It's the weakest manual box available so roll of the dice if it'll last on a V8. Saying that I know of one that has been running for a couple of years and it's survived so far.. Quite possibly Wez, the oil filter mount will foul with something after looking at the diagrams. The 1998 LS400 one certainly does. The Soarer V8 one fits and clears everything on the Supra, not sure on the AC pump though as mine isn't currently fitted to confirm. The two attached diagrams show the GS430 mount and the Soarer mount. I've listed the part numbers for you and a pic of a Soarer mounted fitted to my V8. Soarer V8 BRACKET SUB-ASSY, OIL FILTER 15609-50040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Thank you all again, I have decided not to go ahead with fitting the V8 into the black supra. It's going into something totally different now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdMorris Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I was recommended TTV Racing for a flywheel solution :- http://ttvracing.com/products/?manufacturers=toyota&engine=toyota-1uz-fe&type=flywheels Also, the oil filter will likely foul the sway bar and require a relocation kit. Yes TTV were very good for my custom flywheel. Ryan G put me onto them as he did the same for his. I (well Lee actually), also had to lower the front roll bar on custom mounts (that Lee made), to clear the oil filter. Check my 2UZ build thread for some pics, I think I posted some....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdMorris Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Ah, didn't read your last post, ignore the above one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrar Jabbar Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 No worries, thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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