Chris Wilson Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I have always wanted a standard poodle from when I was a child and my late uncle's dog came to visit every day. Well, as many of our menagerie are getting old, as am I, I took the plunge and bought a bitch pup from a lady who specialises in keeping an old working line called Canen going. These are more like the standard poodles from the fifties, big boned and chunky. Hattie is now 13 weeks and settling in well. She has her minder, Woofie the Anatolian Karabash, who is her hero after taking a Doberman that nipped away, and having a "little word" with it. I think it's buried on the moors somewhere, he's not saying. Ike the black Giant Schnauzer is her gentleman beau, for visits to the ballet (well, the White Bear in Whitchurch, but she hasn't spotted the difference yet, bless her...), and Bella the fawn Bouvier, who thinks she's a PITA. Photo 1 is her finding a good spot to dig for buried treasure, (I think she reads the forum at night). Photo 2 is her with her minder, Woofie, the rescue Karabash Photo 3 is Ike saying "NO, *THIS* way", ushering Hattie back home for lunch Photo 4 is Bella thinking "Is this thing really here for good...?". Photo 5 is Ike leading her back in for lunch, which he doesn't miss for anybody!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 You don't strike me as the poodle type CW that's a cool pup though, never seen one like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Awesome Good to see Woofie getting along and settling in properly as well. Guessing he makes friends with dogs a lot easier than humans?! 2 dogs is plenty for me so you must have the patience of a saint to be looking after that many! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Lovely dogs Chris, me and the other half have been thinking of getting a dog. I've got my heart set on a gsd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 He likes the pup, and the bouvier bitch, but he isn't good with male mature dogs. Standard poodles are very misunderstood in the UK. Firstly people think they are French, but they are actually German. A standard poodle is an all round working dog, or at least should be. Gun dog, water fowling dog, ratter, herder, and second in intelligence only to the border collie. They are also historically multi coloured (parti coloured). It's remarkable what people with a lot more patience that I have can do with them, I was amazed by the versatility of the parti poodle that forms the centre role of this video, for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Lovely dogs Chris, me and the other half have been thinking of getting a dog. I've got my heart set on a gsd. Thanks It's finding a UK breeder that doesn't create crippled, roach backed, tiny runts. That's why the military, police and other services are using the Giant Schnauzer and the Belgian Malinois unless they have their own breeding scheme. The GSD was a great working dog, sadly, thanks to the show crowd, they created a genetic freak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Thanks It's finding a UK breeder that doesn't create crippled, roach backed, tiny runts. That's why the military, police and other services are using the Giant Schnauzer and the Belgian Malinois unless they have their own breeding scheme. The GSD was a great working dog, sadly, thanks to the show crowd, they created a genetic freak. Although after spending some time with my best friends new Rottweiler pup I might be swayed for one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 He likes the pup, and the bouvier bitch, but he isn't good with male mature dogs. Standard poodles are very misunderstood in the UK. Firstly people think they are French, but they are actually German. A standard poodle is an all round working dog, or at least should be. Gun dog, water fowling dog, ratter, herder, and second in intelligence only to the border collie. They are also historically multi coloured (parti coloured). It's remarkable what people with a lot more patience that I have can do with them, I was amazed by the versatility of the parti poodle that forms the centre role of this video, for instance. Must admit I never knew that either, especially that they are primarily working dogs! Seems to be the same with a lot of pure breeds unfortunately. People think I'm mad/fit as a fiddle for owning greyhounds but jokes on them Save their moments of madness, they're asleep most of the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 I thought this was a decent video showing how versatile the standard poodle is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 He looks great Photo 6, Chris gets all creative with the hair dye and clippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 She forgives you, but it's caused her some stress. She says she is just a Tom boy, and a sex change is not on the cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Thanks It's finding a UK breeder that doesn't create crippled, roach backed, tiny runts. That's why the military, police and other services are using the Giant Schnauzer and the Belgian Malinois unless they have their own breeding scheme. The GSD was a great working dog, sadly, thanks to the show crowd, they created a genetic freak. Agree. Im looking for another GSD to be a companion for our current dog. Farm Dogs seem to have the best genetics they are proper GSDs, the pedigree guffers have really ruined a most noble of breeds. Nice pup too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Ahh you got a poodle Chris. Very nice dogs. All we used to get in the military was GSD's. Now you can't move for Malinois. I am training one as we speak! His name is Bieko, but I prefer bone head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Poodle will do well with you, as you'll actually do stuff with it rather than having it as a family dog, locked up with kids all day, wondering why it's bouncing off the walls and losing it's mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Thanks It's finding a UK breeder that doesn't create crippled, roach backed, tiny runts. That's why the military, police and other services are using the Giant Schnauzer and the Belgian Malinois unless they have their own breeding scheme. The GSD was a great working dog, sadly, thanks to the show crowd, they created a genetic freak. Agreed, ruined it by breeding sick crippled dogs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 The problem people face buying an "olde school" GSD is the breeders who have them have generally also selected their genetics for not only good conformation but for a high prey drive, as they will probably be selling them for personal protection work. Until you have experienced a puppy or adult dog with a genuinely high prey drive you probably have no idea what a PITA they can be as a family pet. If anyone's interested I find the American Leerburg kennels and their videos excellent. Oliver here will know all about selected high prey drive dogs, I'm sure, but here's a link to what you can expect a puppy to be like! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXqNl5bTCMU This rescue Anatolian Karabash (now going by the Turkish alternative name of Kangal Dogs thanks to the Kennel Club) has pretty high prey drive, and it is hard to counter it in an adolescent animal. He thinks barking ferociously at any stranger is the right thing to do, and it intimidates people, so it limits where I can take him at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The problem people face buying an "olde school" GSD is the breeders who have them have generally also selected their genetics for not only good conformation but for a high prey drive, as they will probably be selling them for personal protection work. Until you have experienced a puppy or adult dog with a genuinely high prey drive you probably have no idea what a PITA they can be as a family pet. If anyone's interested I find the American Leerburg kennels and their videos excellent. Oliver here will know all about selected high prey drive dogs, I'm sure, but here's a link to what you can expect a puppy to be like! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXqNl5bTCMU This rescue Anatolian Karabash (now going by the Turkish alternative name of Kangal Dogs thanks to the Kennel Club) has pretty high prey drive, and it is hard to counter it in an adolescent animal. He thinks barking ferociously at any stranger is the right thing to do, and it intimidates people, so it limits where I can take him at the moment. I'm not surprised he is as big as a horse, rather than a lead he needs a saddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 We have quite a tough selection process when we look to buy new dogs. Like you said Chris we look for a high drive in a dog. Something we have found that in a GAD is fading in the recent years. Most of the dogs we get from Europe have sporting lines, that's why we go with the malinois and Dutch Hurders. Easy to train if they have all the drives to a good standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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