Chris Wilson Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just tried to price a heater matrix and my trusty local main agent says 87107-14190 is no longer available, UK, Europe or Japan! Anyone know of anywhere with stock? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I know its not OEM but if you're stuck....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-Mk4-heater-matrix-NEW-promotional-price-/162022909784?fits=Model%3ASupra&hash=item25b9516758:m:mHMTgKQj200Whuq0yvi8mgw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Amayama have none which is not generally a good sign :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I assume the US heater matrix will be a different design to ours as the part number differs on the EPC. Could the company that makes your SMIC's help with making a replacement heater matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 I would imagine the LHD cars have a different heater box and matrix. I will ask them, but it would be costly, a lot more than a new one from Toyota due to the low volume and hand production. Wheteher they have access to the fine tube cores i don't know. The Supra IC cores are brazed up especially to meet the very thick OE core depth and use modern core tubes. That's why they need to do 4 at once to make it worthwhile getting the vacuum brazing oven set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Heard good thins about the demisterman ones... Apparently a fraction of the toyota price as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm sure there would be considerable interest, it's going to fail sooner rather than later. I was hoping to pick one up and change it over the winter months as part of preventative maintenance so would certainly be interested if you could force them to do a batch for a decent price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I've got a demisterman one in mine, no issues so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Heard good thins about the demisterman ones... Apparently a fraction of the toyota price as well! Yep Mr T was asking £450+ I've got a demisterman one in mine, no issues so far. What is the build quality like any pictures? What is fitment like? How long has it been fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yep Mr T was asking £450+ What is the build quality like any pictures? What is fitment like? How long has it been fitted? Well it's basically a water radiator, it felt ok didn't feel cheap, was in much better state than the matrix coming out. Been in since year and a half with no problems. I noticed it was a bit thinner than oem, but it fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Does it perform as well as the OE ? i thought i read that they didn't put out anything near the heat of the stock unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I wonder if a matrix from another Toyota model would be similar and still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I found this image on Google, does anyone know if this is an OEM unit vs the demisterman version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I found this image on Google, does anyone know if this is an OEM unit vs the demisterman version? I took that picture That is indeed OEM vs Demisterman. The Demisterman one was alright, didn't get up to temp as quick, nor did it get just as hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 If you look at the core of the none genuine one it's nothing like as dense, either tube or fin wise as the OE one. Hence it won't exchange as much heat from the water, of which there's less at any given moment, than the genuine one. but if you can't get `em.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Look into having some made Chris. I'd buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 If you look at the core of the none genuine one it's nothing like as dense, either tube or fin wise as the OE one. Hence it won't exchange as much heat from the water, of which there's less at any given moment, than the genuine one. but if you can't get `em.... You'll have them made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Amayama have none which is not generally a good sign :-( I couldnt get any OEM coilpacks off them either , even though they indicated UAE and Japan had them in Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 I am doing a matrix for someone shortly, I'll send the old one over to my IC makers and see what they think. I forewarned them today and heard much Germanic sucking of teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Feel free to come check out my heater if you ever see me, in winter is boiling in the car. So oem or not, it does the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Whilst my dash was out upgrading to looms with cruise control and active spoiler, for means of preventative maintenance I swapped the matrix for a demisterman unit. It will keep your feet dry, but they'll never be warm again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Any update Chris? I've also discovered that OEM air condensors are no longer available and there isn't much stock worldwide for the 477-0589. I can't find one anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Cant you just get them re-cored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 I will be looking into having high efficiency matrices made by the people who do my intercoolers, but it will be a few weeks away. It's not cost effective to try and re-use the old end tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I look forward to hearing an update. The intercooler is a work of art so I've high expectations for a heater matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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