Geezabloke Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Im after an induction kit with ali plumbing for 95 UK spec TT, however i believe im restricted cos i have an airflow meter? Can someone please point me in the right direction as to what will fit and where to purchase? Thanks:devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Blitz SUS will fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted April 13, 2003 Author Share Posted April 13, 2003 Martin dose the Blitz unit fit on directly after the flow meter does it need additional pipework? or rejigging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Yes it goes right in front of the MAF. Mine has :- MAF -> Rubber Coupling - > Blitz SUS. The rubber coupling is about 2 to 3 inches long. Sorry i didn't fit this myself so can't tell you exactly what comes in the box. But i know one of the garages on this BBS recently had trouble fitting the SUS to a UK spec car, but it can be done as i'm not the only UK spec owner with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted April 13, 2003 Author Share Posted April 13, 2003 OK MArtin where from and how much m8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Speak to Leon at JPS. Not sure of current price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 13, 2003 Share Posted April 13, 2003 Tried http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 Where abouts are you in Kent? Sanspeed in Sidcup sell them, you can pop in and pick one up, takes about 2 days for them to order them in. Their number is 02083034314. Check internet prices first, as I remember it they charged the same as the net when I bought mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Hi Guys, I have a 93 Uk Spec Supra and also I have a Blitz Induction Kit, but I am having trouble fitting it, as far as I can see you fit the rubber hose section that comes with the kit onto the filter cone and the other end directly onto the Air Flow sensor. The problem with this is the pipe that goes over the top is slighty squashed and I am worried about restricted the airflow. Plus the mounting brackets will need to be modified to fit, if not the cone sits on the engine bay and might bump up and down and cause damage. I have taken the kit off at the mo until I can come up with a better fitting idea, if anyone has fitted one of these kits to a UK car I would be very grateful to know how. Cheers for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 I will try to take some pictures of my install in the next couple of days. One thing that springs to mind is that i think on a stock car there is a bracket on the AFM, this is no longer fitted on my install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Thanks Martin, that would be most helpful, also do I need any additional hoses or pipes..??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Nope sounds like what you have there is the same as what i have. Just need to sort out orientation etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Franmaster Ive recently fitted a Blitz SS Induction kit to my UK spec TT. The fit is tight but does just go, the filter sits loose but is held tightly in place by the IC pipe over the top of the airflow sensor, I know this doesnt sound too proffessional but in reality its neat and very secure). Hope this helps....Pic Attached........:flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Geezabloke you are the man mate..!!! will have another go tomorrow afternoon thanks mate your a legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted April 29, 2003 Author Share Posted April 29, 2003 Franmaster No probs M8, only too glad to be of help. Cheers M8.....................:flame Dev :flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_SG Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Yeah its a snug fit, but it wont move anywhere. Sounds nice to Glad to see you got it on ok. Ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Hi, If you wanted a more 'complete' kit then you can use the HKS Racing Suction Kit on the UK spec too. It requires a little modification to the pipe but it's not exactly a drama. Just another option. Cheers, Nathan TDI PLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Originally posted by Nathan Hi, If you wanted a more 'complete' kit then you can use the HKS Racing Suction Kit on the UK spec too. It requires a little modification to the pipe but it's not exactly a drama. Out of interest have HKS done anything to improve the filtration of these kits since the "big filter test" showed the older ones to be a bit useless? The "Big Test" page 1 The "Big Test" page 2 I know I still avoid HKS filters on the basis of the test but they have had 4 years to look at improvements - have they bothered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Originally posted by mcanny Out of interest have HKS done anything to improve the filtration of these kits since the "big filter test" showed the older ones to be a bit useless? HKS filter elements have not changed for around 8 years to my knowledge. Even then, they only changed in shape rather than filtration material/construction. HKS are aware of the test in question and simply look upon it with great mirth. They will listen to any test data found using controlled methods but a household vacuum cleaner and a pile of unknown dust particles does not really make for conclusive evidence in their opinion. HKS Powerflows still continue to outsell any other Japanese aftermarket filter kit by a large margin. You pays yer money... Cheers Nathan TDI PLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Originally posted by Nathan HKS filter elements have not changed for around 8 years to my knowledge. Even then, they only changed in shape rather than filtration material/construction. HKS are aware of the test in question and simply look upon it with great mirth. They will listen to any test data found using controlled methods but a household vacuum cleaner and a pile of unknown dust particles does not really make for conclusive evidence in their opinion. HKS Powerflows still continue to outsell any other Japanese aftermarket filter kit by a large margin. You pays yer money... Cheers Nathan TDI PLC I find it really interesting to see how so many people push these results to one side because of the methods used to conduct the test, in my eyes using the hoover seems like a perfectly valid way to test filtration. Saying that I know of an MR2 owner who put some white cloth after the filter while it was on the car, he ended up with very dirty piece of cloth. Yes you "pays yer money" but do you get something worthwhile? A lot of people buy them but is this based on the HKS name or do they actually take the time to compare them with other brands - I dare say that if HKS put their logo on a packet of crisps and said it was a "ping pong rectification unit for maximum sauce consistency" people would buy it, that doesn't make it anything other than a packet of crisps. I'm not having a dig at HKS / You / Anyone here BTW - I'm just interested in this test and see it getting thrown around the internet a lot everytime someone threatens to buy a HKS filter, I'm very suprised someone hasn't taken up the challenge of doing a more scientific version of it to get real data, maybe HKS should do this to get even more sales of their "see through" filter technology? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 I asked a while ago if anyone could think of a more valid test than sucking dust through em, nobody came up with anything. I've got all sorts of cool gear I can use at work but it's all going to be variations on the same theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Originally posted by mcanny I find it really interesting to see how so many people push these results to one side because of the methods used to conduct the test In contrast, I'm amazed at what people will believe.... in my eyes using the hoover seems like a perfectly valid way to test filtration. It may well be, but we don't know that for sure. It certainly won't behave like an engine does though. Saying that I know of an MR2 owner who put some white cloth after the filter while it was on the car, he ended up with very dirty piece of cloth. OK, so what was the particle size of this 'dirt'? Would it damage the engine or would it largely pass straight through without causing a problem? If it was a problem, how long would it take to manifest itself? Would it be like throwing a bag of sand into the inlet or would it take 10 years before engine wear was noticed? Yes you "pays yer money" but do you get something worthwhile? A lot of people buy them but is this based on the HKS name or do they actually take the time to compare them with other brands - I dare say that if HKS put their logo on a packet of crisps and said it was a "ping pong rectification unit for maximum sauce consistency" people would buy it, that doesn't make it anything other than a packet of crisps. I would personally say that you are being very sceptical. Thats not a problem, and I'm not even going to think about trying to change that. Indeed, we would all be brainwashed were we not, but in terms of weighing up the pros and cons of a known product I think we all need to base our conclusions on what we know. Your dis-trust with HKS extends to using the crisp packet analogy but IMO I trust HKS enough for them not to put their name to anything that is garbage. I don't think they would risk their reputation by supplying an extremely poor product/s. I can understand you views as a consumer, but even if I wasn't aware of HKS's pedigree, R&D budgets or having been well around their components for some 4 years I still wouldn't base my feelings of their components on any test that is clearly not controlled. I'm not having a dig at HKS / You / Anyone here BTW - I'm just interested in this test and see it getting thrown around the internet a lot everytime someone threatens to buy a HKS filter I'm as interested as anyone else when it comes to weighing up the power gain V wear equation, which is, after all, what it all comes down to, but I'm an extremely logical person and I simply can't accept someone not giving me controlled data. I'm very suprised someone hasn't taken up the challenge of doing a more scientific version of it to get real data You just said it yourself....'more scientific' and 'real data'...... [maybe HKS should do this to get even more sales of their "see through" filter technology? Maybe HKS don't need to. Besides, any data that HKS offered would probably be seen as biased by those that are sceptical enough to put their faith in the hoover test anyway. There always comes a point when I bow down from defending HKS and I feel I'm getting close to it on this thread now. Only the consumer can decide who to trust with parts, just as they would with tuners. Thats why my 'pays yer money' quote is so fitting. No one is telling anyone what parts to buy. Personally I don't live my life by hearsay, theory and inconsistancy. I work by facts, pedigrees and experience, and even if the filtration on HKS filters is poor compared to the others, if it only becomes a problem at 40K+ mileages I probably wouldn't give a stuff anyway. The hoover test says that the HKS filters are bad. I know of cars fitted with them that are still going strong which were done here 10 years ago. Hmm....which way do I turn? I have no doubt that the HKS filters, like most aftermarket filters, will have a reduction in filtration ability over a new, standard OE air filter. However, as soon as you start tuning a car you are reducing it's life anyway so should we be sceptical of running increased boost? That will significantly reduce an engines life, and especially the life of Jap ceramic turbos..... Opinions are great ;-) Cheers, Nathan TDI PLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Opinions are great ;-) And often very very long I completely appreciate your viewpoint Nathan and don't have any problem with HKS products on the whole, I've owned a few HKS items in the past and can see myself doing so again, I guess I'm just more brainwashed by the filter test than most and like to know other people's thoughts on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraJames Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 well guys the blitz kit is on and sounds awesome, its a snug fit but seems ok, well it all works..!! thanks for all your help geezabloke especially. cheers mates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezabloke Posted April 30, 2003 Author Share Posted April 30, 2003 No Probs M8, enjoy! and post pic of ur car if u get the chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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