Guest davismj711 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Lo all, have tried the magic search and have not found a user related thread concerning this SMIC. Would all of you that have installed and used this SMIC please chime in with your experiences. Has anyone ever done a comparison of the Whifbitz vs the CW ? are there any major differences ? Does the bar and plate design of the Wifbitz provide superior cooling or durability ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The Whifbitz one is inferior to the CW one. While the CW one is capable of supporting small single turbo installs,the Whifbitz can not cope with any more than maybe 450-500hp max. However, the CW is also much more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 +1 for the CW SMIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davismj711 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 j_jza80 thanks for the reply, is there any hard testing to confirm this ? Several online sites claim this for the Wifbitz in their description "This will be more efficient than the stock unit and will be able to run a small single turbo setup up to 550bhp." The other item is that the Wifbitz does use a bar and plate design, does the CW use Bar and plate also ? Lastly, it is difficult to source the CW SMIC, seems and rightly so that he needs a min order of 4 and not even sure that Chris is doing these any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Yes I had a Whifbitz SMIC fitted to my car, which was fine when the car was stock and BPU. It was still fitted to my car when I went single turbo, but Whifbitz found the intercooler was too inefficient to cope with my 550hp target during mapping. So they installed one of their FMIC kits. CW claims that there are several people using his SMIC on small single cars, I think Pig might be one of them but it's worth asking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davismj711 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Jay, thanks again for taking the time to reply. I also took the time to read your build thread and have a few questions and remarks. 1) Your car turned out great, the areas of slight surface rust are areas I will look into. I hate the thought of going FMIC, The Wifbitz SMIC seemed a good alternative based on the slim hopes of sourcing a CW SMIC. I have tried to source an active lip at a decent price for years to no avail. Future plans call for the GT-28 twin hybrid turbo upgrade, currently most owners running them get up to 535 hp. 2) Do the Zunsport grills require drilling the front cover to install ? 3) How are you going to source a lip and attach it w/o the supporting active lip hardware ? Thanks Edited August 1, 2016 by davismj711 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 CW SMIC, better core design, German made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew K Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) I've converted to a signal turbo Precision T6765 running a Chris Wilson SMIC and I'm at 618BHP and it handles it really well. Click on the link below in my signature and you will see all the info in my build thread. Edited August 1, 2016 by Andrew K (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianhid Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I've got a CW intercooler sat in my living room waiting to go on. I bought it over the Whifbitz one because it allows me to go up to a small single in future if I want, while keeping an exterior OEM look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Ive had both, cw all the way mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I thought the Whifbitz ones were made by RadTec who have a good rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilkinson Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I'm swapping from a greddy FMIC to a CW SMIC as part of the car revamp. I don't want much more than 600 bhp and I want the car to have active front aero and a stock ducted front end. I got the idea from Andrew K's car. The CW SMIC build quality is very good. I know it's expensive but I'm certain it's worth every penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBDevelopments Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 i thought they were pro-ally personally. either way been very happy with mine. Tim TB Developments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I am still supply these. If one were to go to the US I would want the buyer to arrange all transport though, from the US end. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) I bought a WB SMIC which is a good quality build and, I believe, half the price of the CW SMIC. It was a straight bolt on and the car did seem to respond positively to the upgrade from the 15 year old OEM one with rotten fins that would simply powder if touched. I'm more than happy with the WB one though my credit card did get scammed straight after I purchased from their online Worldpay transaction. I did tell them afterwards to upgrade their SSL. So good product, dodgy transaction which needed a card change and rejection of a Chinese phantom charge. Edited August 8, 2016 by rider (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I am still supply these. If one were to go to the US I would want the buyer to arrange all transport though, from the US end. Thanks. What's the current cost please Chris? Seriously considering investing in one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 What's the current cost please Chris? Seriously considering investing in one now. Could get it made cheaper yourself. Just bring your current smic to any radiator manufacturer and ask them to do you one in full alloy. Last one I had made was £400 all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Could get it made cheaper yourself. Just bring your current smic to any radiator manufacturer and ask them to do you one in full alloy. Last one I had made was £400 all in. /QUOTE] Which would possibly be equivalent to the Whifbitz one at best. The CW ones use proper, F1 grade cores, which is why they can support over 600hp, and why they're so expensive (relatively speaking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Which would possibly be equivalent to the Whifbitz one at best. The WB SMIC is twice the size of a OEM SMIC so if you are currently running a stock unit then getting it reworked wouldn't come up with the same cooling efficiency as the WB unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Which would possibly be equivalent to the Whifbitz one at best. The CW ones use proper, F1 grade cores, which is why they can support over 600hp, and why they're so expensive (relatively speaking). Lol aye ok spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 The WB SMIC is twice the size of a OEM SMIC so if you are currently running a stock unit then getting it reworked wouldn't come up with the same cooling efficiency as the WB unit. I was using a Whifbitz SMIC when I went single, but it couldn't cope with 550hp (by Whifbitz own admission). There are several cars running more than this with a CW SMIC, even over 600hp. Currently have a Whifbitz fmic which is fine, but I want to get my active spoiler working, which is a case of either chopping up my intercooler pipework, or replacing it with a CW SMIC, which is what I'm most tempted to do now. Nothing wrong with the Whifbitz SMIC, so long as you're not looking to go above BPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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