TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Looking to up the bhp but just seeing what would be needed in supporting mods and possible engine work. After speaking to different people just want to get a short list of parts and work that would need doing to the engine. Plenty of you guys have done it just after some advice Spec Hks twins 1000cc injectors Engine oil cooler Uprated radiator 450lph fuel pump Aem v.2 ecu Stock intake 4 inch fmic Iridium spark plugs Stock fuel line Fpr. As far as I know it's a stock block and internals. Running 550fwhp looking for 600bhp to 700bhp [emoji4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 What exhaust setup is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Ah yes 3 inch straight through. Manifolds are Hks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 3" exhaust will limit you to about 700bhp. Walbro 450lph pump will be good for about 650bhp on stock fuel lines Stock fuel lines are good for between 600-650bhp. 1000cc Injectors will be ok for 700bhp, might be worth getting them flow tested though depending on age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 And what changes internaly or just a remap.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) And what changes internaly or just a remap.? /QUOTE] Standard internals are good for 750bhp with a healthy engine. Although if your on stock cams you'll struggle to get past 700bhp I'd imagine. If you can afford it, I'd recommend some 264 cams to improve top end power. Well worth it I must admit. Your still on the stock auto though arent you? If I were you, I'd get it remapped in its current spec and see what it makes, then go from there. Edited July 18, 2016 by Chris Bailey (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm running 670 at wheels on pump fuel with a 3" restriction on exhaust and more on ethanol. All seems fine. You should be looking at twin fuel pumps ideally. 1000cc will be fine for your power needs at 80/85 DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 What boost are you currently running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 So a remap with twin fuel pumps to start. Maybe cams or a built head later. Cool thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 So a remap with twin fuel pumps to start. Maybe cams or a built head later. Cool thanks for the help guys. /QUOTE] I can recommend the BC 264 cams along with BC dual valve springs, wind the boost up. Should see you really nice gains! Lord Voldemort for the BC stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 A big wallet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 A big wallet It is full of moths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 I can recommend the BC 264 cams along with BC dual valve springs, wind the boost up. Should see you really nice gains! Lord Voldemort for the BC stuff /QUOTE] Seems that a worked heads in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Seems that a worked heads in order. /QUOTE] From my recent experience of an engine with 130k on it, i needed all new valve guides and 17 new valves.... although there were some other mitigating factors with mine but the springs etc are definitely worth doing if you want to go with cams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Why do you need a built head? That's just wasting money in my opinion, especially if your goals are between 600-700bhp? Just fit a set of 264 cams which you can run with the stock valve springs. Valve springs are a bonus, but you can set the rev limit to 7250-7400-rpm on the stock valve springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Why do you need a built head? That's just wasting money in my opinion, especially if your goals are between 600-700bhp? Just fit a set of 264 cams which you can run with the stock valve springs. I found with my car that the cams and a slightly higher rev limit resulted in my 17 bent valves. Not like banana but bent enough that they would show on a clock gauge and they weren't sealing worth a damn. Im no expert but the guy who rebuilt my engine is and thats what he told me about it. Couldnt do any harm i suppose to refresh the head at least at the age they are now. Apparently my valve guides were rattling about and that was down to age apparently. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I found with my car that the cams and a slightly higher rev limit resulted in my 17 bent valves. Not like banana but bent enough that they would show on a clock gauge and they weren't sealing worth a damn. Im no expert but the guy who rebuilt my engine is and thats what he told me about it. Couldnt do any harm i suppose to refresh the head at least at the age they are now. Apparently my valve guides were rattling about and that was down to age apparently. ..... /QUOTE] What was your rev limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 What was your rev limit? 7,250 from memory Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraleeturbo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Mine does over 700 on stock cams lol but if was me up the fuel system with twin 485's fuel lines bigger injectors and set of cams mate I'll be selling my 1100cc asnus soon as I'm going 1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Mine does over 700 on stock cams lol but if was me up the fuel system with twin 485's fuel lines bigger injectors and set of cams mate I'll be selling my 1100cc asnus soon as I'm going 1500 Cool thanks for all the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 What boost are you currently running? /QUOTE] 1.7 at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Twin pumps would be a good idea but you'll be fine on stock lines I'd think if you're trying to keep the budget down. Cams would be a better and more noticeable mod (264s would work a treat) but if your head isn't in good nick, you could be opening a can of worms by touching it. By that I mean being forced to go down the refresh route when I don't think that's your plan at this stage. Best idea before you start is get a compression and leak down test done to see the state of the block and head, that way you'll know if you're likely to run into any unforseen expense! You could always consider ethanol, but that's a whole different ball game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 Twin pumps would be a good idea but you'll be fine on stock lines I'd think if you're trying to keep the budget down. Cams would be a better and more noticeable mod (264s would work a treat) but if your head isn't in good nick, you could be opening a can of worms by touching it. By that I mean being forced to go down the refresh route when I don't think that's your plan at this stage. Best idea before you start is get a compression and leak down test done to see the state of the block and head, that way you'll know if you're likely to run into any unforseen expense! You could always consider ethanol, but that's a whole different ball game! /QUOTE] Cool thanks for that gives me a few bits to check. Plenty of help thanks for all the input from everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraleeturbo Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 A head refresh isn't a major exspencive job and well worth doing mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT Paul Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 A head refresh isn't a major exspencive job and well worth doing mate Ye gona look at cost and options. See what's best might do head then bottom end if needed. Get twin pumps and remap first go from there I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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