far Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 So basically my valet guy/detailer is using the waterless system, I was always under the impress you should jet wash the care down to get rid of the dirt and debris on ther bodywork to avoid swirl marks and scratches, anyone got any experience of using this and does it really 'lift' the dirt off the bodywork I might just be old school but I cant get my head around a spray on/wipe off system being 100% 'safe' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 one word no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 even if it did lift the crap up hes still got to wipe it off, give him a really dirty car and say use the waterless and watch his face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorruptSapphire Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I know that Meguiars offer a waterless wash spray that you you spray on and remove with one microfibre towel and then dry with a second. But speaking to them they have said that this is only for very light contamination e.g car detailed and then driven to show. Not sure about actually washing a car from start to finish without water. Hopefully soem pf the detailers on here will be able to shed more light on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 i just did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 even if it did lift the crap up hes still got to wipe it off, give him a really dirty car and say use the waterless and watch his face thats what I thought, but what about something that isnt caked in mud and just has dust/etc on it? is it then down to technique? For some of the company cars im 100% ok with it but kinda want to avoid it on the Overfinch and Ferrari if there is even a small chance of there being a danger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 deffo not on them , ok for a show as mentioned to give a quick clean , even then im not 100% with it tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 be interesting to see what christians opinions are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think the whole concept is just bizarre. Unless you can just spray it on and it floats away, it's impossible to not touch and remove a rough object such as dirt and it not leave a scratch or a mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think the whole concept is just bizarre. Unless you can just spray it on and it floats away, it's impossible to not touch and remove a rough object such as dirt and it not leave a scratch or a mark. thats my thinking too but he seems convinced its fully safe and he is a bit if a geek detailer some interesting comments on here http://www.performancemotorcare.com/blog/waterless-car-wash-products-do-they-really-work/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorruptSapphire Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Would part of it be down to the quality of the microfibre towel that would be doing the suspending of contaminants. For example using a rolling motion so that you lift the leading edge of the towel as you move as to try prevent any swirls / scratches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 let him do it then but if hes got to machine it after you dont pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 let him do it then but if hes got to machine it after you dont pay he's done all my staff cars and pool cars and they look great, just a bit paranoid letting him loose on the fezza or Finch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor69 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I've always used the waterless polish on my cars ......but I make sure I wash the crap off it first, that's just common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 he's done all my staff cars and pool cars and they look great, just a bit paranoid letting him loose on the fezza or Finch! let him do it then , but inspect the cars prior , but saying that you know what condition they are in, and just say if its swirled youll have to machine it , up to him then which way he does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 let him do it then , but inspect the cars prior , but saying that you know what condition they are in, and just say if its swirled youll have to machine it , up to him then which way he does it yeah thats what I was thinking, the finch is almost brand new with only 4k miles on it and has zero scratches or swirls so if any appear he is responsible ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I personally wouldn't use the waterless system. But I think your average cheap car washers called them-self detailer's now days. I think people use that term very loosely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 its basically a time saver or short cut , on vehicles like yours , there should be no short cuts or time limits it takes as long as it takes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 You can be as careful as you like using two buckets, grit guards etc and still cock it up easily enough. If the OP lets him loose on his Ferrari than I'm coming round to take you to the funny farm...... I'll drive you in your slightly scratched car though just to make the ordeal less stressful..... when you recover, you'll hopefully be convinced that my silver Seat Leon shiteheap was your original car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 G you kill me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I use the waterless car wash spray most of the time I go to shows, meets etc .. The car would of been washed before I left of course, it's very light film on the car .. If it's rained I'm very careful as then you will find grit Splashed up on the car. I do have a portable car wash pressure tank too if that happens You got to use your noodle .. Your not going to use it if you have not washed you car for a week which you use every day ..also have a quick inspection make sure it's just a light film and no grit etc lol If I had a black car I would use my portable car washer most the time as that will show up swirls easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I would never do a proper waterless wash, too risky, have a look at a couple of these: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham1984 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 If I had a Mclaren I'd rather be reincarnated as my mum's over used dildo than let that arse clown clean it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraleeturbo Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I hate water less wash may ass well get little rocks and run it in the paint work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max5437 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Detailing is a hobby of mine but have a friend who's dad has a business with this and am basically echoing everyone else, it's a good idea for shows ect but even on a normal car let along something like yours I wouldn't ever consider it, if dirt has to be removed with a cloth then it will scratch the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.