BoostJunky86 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Hey again All Another one up for sale I quite like. Any thoughts please!! http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/toyota/supra/700-bhp-rz-supra-priced-to-sell/5135091?v=b#/home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 "James" on here is selling his car for I think a similar price, I would go for that over the one you posted above mate. He advertised it on his facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Just had a quick look at the general prices for TT6 from your link .. Seem to be holding a good 15-18k still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Big old laggy turbo, some nice bits on it but it doesn't do a lot for me. Best one for sale at the moment is this one IMO... http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?330461-1999-Toyota-Supra-Twin-Turbo-6-speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Big old laggy turbo, I've never seen claims for 700bhp out of a GT28 before. Didn't think it went to that kind of power. Maybe those who know this turbo inside out can confirm if 700bhp is possible. The seller is listed as Irish so you'd be dealing in Euros. I'd stick to someone selling a car off here if you want to go big bhp. At least then there is likely to be a history behind the build and the car and importantly, the seller to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 James's car is so much better than this. Nicer colour, vvti, facelift, generally higher spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glanza_Mike Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Agree with everyone else strongly that's saying James car is a lot nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I've never seen claims for 700bhp out of a GT28 before. Didn't think it went to that kind of power. Maybe those who know this turbo inside out can confirm if 700bhp is possible. The seller is listed as Irish so you'd be dealing in Euros. I'd stick to someone selling a car off here if you want to go big bhp. At least then there is likely to be a history behind the build and the car and importantly, the seller to. I'm assuming it is a spelling mistake and actually a T88-29d, there is no such thing as a t28-29d James's car is a great buy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Those Greddy turbo manifolds are VERY prone to cracking, the turbine housing is from a diesel and erodes with the high EGT's of a petrol engine and the turbine blades look like a mouse has nibbled their extremities. It may not be possible to have it rebuilt. It will be as laggy as hell. The Jap Ohlins it will have will probably be leaking or knocking, and although I can rebuild them they will need new piston rods, new top bearings and seals and new pistons, and it ain't a cheap job. The spring rates may well be more drift than Dartford, and the ECU will have limited mappers available. Budget on the worst case scenario for those items unless you are 110% sure about them. Negative? Me?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Looks properly clean underneath Turbo kit/shocks have only covered 3000km As far as I can tell. I like James car but there's a big difference in price and I also know his has been driven in the U.K./Scotland as a daily from what I can gather. Not knocking his car but Scotland isn't famous for its pleasant winters lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Turbo is T78-29d too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glanza_Mike Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 £21.5 to £23 o.n.o is not much difference at all when you're already spending over 20k on a car imo. But each to their own, James' car is also 5 years younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 That does look very clean underneath, any photos of the sill returns and floor box sections, a moments careless use of a trolley jack can do a LOT of nasty damage? If they are totally undamaged it's an unusually good underbody from what I can see. There are some real rusty MKIV's around these days. Shame it doesn't have the matching Alcon rear brake kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 i wont be paying 21.5 ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Unusually good as in worryingly clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris Wilson Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Why has it got red over spray underneath? Is the car original paint? At that price I would most definitely expect it to be. have you seen it in person? On a ramp? Those photos are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 No. Not in person mate, I assumed that was just factory finish to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 White one I was looking at looked similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 That is nice, it's obviously been well cared for, and / or had some very expensive restoration. The brakes are especially nice However, it is still not up to the same level as James's IMO, to get it up to that standard would cost thousands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostJunky86 Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) I don't follow. Is there that much more? Similar turbo kit? Worse shocks/brakes Higher mileage Is VVTi/facelift I thought they'd be about on par. Pros/cons for both? This isn't meant to knock James car. Just trying to decipher everything in my head lol Edited April 7, 2016 by BoostJunky86 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 However, it is still not up to the same level as James's IMO, to get it up to that standard would cost thousands. I'm struggling with that comparison as well?! Is it the fact that it's facelift and vvti that's making people compare them? The colour? The cars have the same ECU, virtually exactly the same Turbo kit(par the turbo itself). This car has been serviced and looked after by Top Secret in Japan and has the history to prove. It also hasn't been driven through two salty scottish winters, and if the condition of the red car underneath is as good as the photos imply, then it's up there with the cleanest I've ever seen. Body-wise the paint may be better( James's has a fair few marks), or it may be worse(needs viewing as the pictures are crap). I'm also not taking a personal dig at James's car, just wondering where the 1000's of pounds to be spent come from? Personally, with a stock bonnet, the wheels repainted and facelift lights front and rear, the red car would be a stunner for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Vvti and facelift were the points I was getting at. VVTi isn't a must, but it's definitely a desirable extra. More torque, more of the time and improved turbo spool. James's car is younger, again, not a major point, but preferable. Fitting facelift lights to a pre facelift would cost the best part of £1k now, and they do look much nicer. You also get the nicer dash panels, and James's car has a really fancy Apexi dash setup. I don't know about who services James's car in Japan, but I do know Jurgen sourced it through Global Auto. They are a very highly respected Japanese dealer, who only sell the best examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I'm also not taking a personal dig at James's car, just wondering where the 1000's of pounds to be spent come from? Obviously the need for a black respray, facelift lights, new seats and a cool dash like mine has. Just for reference, my car hasn't been driven through bad winters. For the first one, I had a broken ankle so couldn't use it even if I wanted to, then this winter just gone it wasn't driven from October until the start of February. Not trying to big up my car - just wanted to clarify! If that red car is in super mint condition then great, it'd be a good buy. Naturally, I don't think mine is a bad choice either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleshead Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Vvti and facelift were the points I was getting at. VVTi isn't a must, but it's definitely a desirable extra. More torque, more of the time and improved turbo spool. James's car is younger, again, not a major point, but preferable. Fitting facelift lights to a pre facelift would cost the best part of £1k now, and they do look much nicer. You also get the nicer dash panels, and James's car has a really fancy Apexi dash setup. I don't know about who services James's car in Japan, but I do know Jurgen sourced it through Global Auto. They are a very highly respected Japanese dealer, who only sell the best examples. So maybe £1500 for the work I mentioned? Depends who you got to do it ofc, buy agree there is an outlay of work I'd personally want to perform. VVTI makes no odds for me, with a modern turbo like a 6266 it would be spooling faster than you'd want it to anyway! Plus with aftermarket cams they rattle at idle annoyingly. Dash panels, imo a totally stock Pre-facelift dash with TRD gauges is the ultimate(again my personal choice), and I'm not a fan of that defi dash. I just have horrible visions of how the stock loom may have been cut up to fit it(maybe it uses it's own sensor loom, no experience with it) Basically we've proven nothing here as it comes down to personal taste haha! Edited April 7, 2016 by TheTurtleshead (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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