Hitbox Junkie Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just asking around as I was curious but has anyone tried gearlink.Co.uk he makes parts in house if he can't get parts so might be worth someone giving him a call instead of using jacks. A guy at college is having his box done there 1st and 2nd shortened ect for his race mini. (Not a v160 box) but just thought I'd share for a different avenue to use to get your Box done in the UK? If anyone has tried them.and been refused then just delete the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 This seems like a good idea. I'd much rather send my gearbox to a British company for several reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I would use Jacks transmission their service and build quality is amazing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 I would use Jacks transmission their service and build quality is amazing . I deffantly would use jacks. But just an alternative as some really want uk but maybe it would be cheaper to use a UK based company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I deffantly would use jacks. But just an alternative as some really want uk but maybe it would be cheaper to use a UK based company? True might be cheaper, but I have heard so many stories on rebuilding V160, jacks seems to be the only company recommended to use. Keep track my gearbox build soon you will see their amazing quality rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just a random question, why do people say that the V160/V161 is 'difficult' to rebuild? Surely its not that much difference from other manual gearboxes? Clearly with this ignorant comment I don't know much about the differences on the internals and operations of gearboxes but to me a gearbox is a gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I really wanted the Jacks Stage 3 ; therefore, anything else was not a option for me. I'm sure if it's only about replacing syncros or grears, a gearbox specialist can do it. The only thing to bear in mind is the obsolescence of the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Massey Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just a random question, why do people say that the V160/V161 is 'difficult' to rebuild? Surely its not that much difference from other manual gearboxes? Clearly with this ignorant comment I don't know much about the differences on the internals and operations of gearboxes but to me a gearbox is a gearbox. I think its more of the parts are hard to come by or are discontinued. But I do think there is a "Supra stigma" involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I'm taking my R154 to garage D. Lots of gearbox history on drift boxes and supra boxes. You'll need to confirm the 6sp obviously. Worth a shout though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just a random question, why do people say that the V160/V161 is 'difficult' to rebuild? Surely its not that much difference from other manual gearboxes? Clearly with this ignorant comment I don't know much about the differences on the internals and operations of gearboxes but to me a gearbox is a gearbox. I thought this too. However, Keron mentioned to me that he had used a gearbox specialist for something like 7+ years and managed to rebuild all sorts. However, when Keron left him with the V160 he called back a few days later and advised he wasn't confident working on it. I'm sure it's something to do with getting the gears/synchros off safely without buggering the things up. Definitely a specialists job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah its more to do with parts really, our gearbox specialist has done them for us in past when parts were available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thread hijack, how much movement should there be in the stick when it's in gear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It has to be about time one of the traders looked into making a proper adapter kit to use a different manual gearbox with these cars. I know that has its own challenges, but we've reached the point now where people are asking £2500 for broken gearboxes, which is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Thread hijack, how much movement should there be in the stick when it's in gear ? The closer to nil the better. I would simply describe it as minimal. Drive a new manual box... that's how much movement you should feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yeah its more to do with parts really, our gearbox specialist has done them for us in past when parts were available So what you're saying is, your gearbox specialist could tear down a V160, identify what parts are needed - then we (or they) could contact Jack Transmissions to buy the parts and have it fixed in the UK? Of course things are easier said than done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So what you're saying is, your gearbox specialist could tear down a V160, identify what parts are needed - then we (or they) could contact Jack Transmissions to buy the parts and have it fixed in the UK? Of course things are easier said than done I doubt Jacks would sell any parts, maybe if they start producing bits but tbh I could get that done in the UK Would just cost a lot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 It has to be about time one of the traders looked into making a proper adapter kit to use a different manual gearbox with these cars. I know that has its own challenges, but we've reached the point now where people are asking £2500 for broken gearboxes, which is silly. Once my 420g gearbox is on, I will have change left over to buy 4 spares for the price of a shagged v160. It truly has gone bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Once my 420g gearbox is on, I will have change left over to buy 4 spares for the price of a shagged v160. It truly has gone bananas. Out of interest, have you looked at how the ratios stack up on the BM boxes against the W58/V161? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 One of the problems is people want (for no real good reason i can see) a six speed gearbox. The next issue is people do "silly things ;)" with MKIV's, like drag racing and drifting. Who is brave enough to offer any sort of warranty on a gearbox used that sort of thing? The only way I can see a trader like myself offering a conversion is to let the car owner source the gearbox and just supply the parts needed to adapt it to the car. A quick glance at what's available that would realistically be in the ball park, torque capacity wise, for a potent single turbo 2JZ-GTE in a full weight MKIV is perhaps the Borg Warner / Tremec T-6060 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremec_TR-6060_transmission It has a choice of ratios, looks like it *MIGHT* go down the tunnel, has a removable bell housing, and seems to have different input shaft lengths available. How much cheaper, if any, then a new Getrag V160 / V161 they are I have no idea. I would have to measure up to see if the gear lever came out somewhere sensible, too. Some would say the T-56 would do. I don't believe it's up the job in a powerful single turbo car. The BMW diesel turbo boxes are undoubtedly strong, but the ratios are no good with the range of diff ratios available for the MKIV It's not that traders won't have looked at this, it's just people probably wouldn't pay enough for the end product So how much is a new Tremec T-6060 landed here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 One of the problems is people want (for no real good reason i can see) a six speed gearbox. The next issue is people do "silly things ;)" with MKIV's, like drag racing and drifting. Who is brave enough to offer any sort of warranty on a gearbox used that sort of thing? The only way I can see a trader like myself offering a conversion is to let the car owner source the gearbox and just supply the parts needed to adapt it to the car. A quick glance at what's available that would realistically be in the ball park, torque capacity wise, for a potent single turbo 2JZ-GTE in a full weight MKIV is perhaps the Borg Warner / Tremec T-6060 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremec_TR-6060_transmission It has a choice of ratios, looks like it *MIGHT* go down the tunnel, has a removable bell housing, and seems to have different input shaft lengths available. How much cheaper, if any, then a new Getrag V160 / V161 they are I have no idea. I would have to measure up to see if the gear lever came out somewhere sensible, too. Some would say the T-56 would do. I don't believe it's up the job in a powerful single turbo car. The BMW diesel turbo boxes are undoubtedly strong, but the ratios are no good with the range of diff ratios available for the MKIV It's not that traders won't have looked at this, it's just people probably wouldn't pay enough for the end product So how much is a new Tremec T-6060 landed here? http://www.partsworldperformance.com/tr-6060-six-speed-manual-transmission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Out of interest, have you looked at how the ratios stack up on the BM boxes against the W58/V161? With a 3.280 FDR its not very far away from the v161 at all. They can also handle a lot of abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I am now not sure if the bellhousing on the Tremec t-6060 is actually separate or contains some of the front bearing supports. If it's not a separate bellhousing it would be far from ideal. I looked at Hitbox Junkie's link and I think there must be various versions of this box as the one I was looking at on a web site the other day took a lot more torque. I have just seen this version, maybe there are others? I think the one I saw at first was from the supercharged Corvette http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/transmissions/mg9-tr6060.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 This is £3200 in the USA and looks more promising: http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/transmissions/t56-super-magnum.html#Parts Gear ratios on 5th and 6th too high though, 5th needs to be 1 to 1 and 6th a bit of an overdrive. Not sure if alternate ratios are available. Torque capacity is good though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 This may save Chris from re-inventing the wheel? http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-1JZ-2JZ-TO-T56-6-SPEED-CONVERSION-KIT-TREMEC-2jzgte-1jzgte-drift-supra-/261761815121 Or cheapskate option. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-1JZ-2JZ-GTE-to-Tremec-T56-6sp-Gearbox-Adapter-/201421139116?hash=item2ee5a2acac:g:WnYAAOSwgQ9V6Z5F&vxp=mtr N/A auto bell-housings have just gone up in £value. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Transmission-Mounts-Swap-kit-for-86-89-Toyota-Supra-MK3-GM-LS1-LSx-T56-/331094068254?hash=item4d16be8c1e:g:fzoAAOxyVaBSu5er&vxp=mtr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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