natony Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Does anyone else see theresa may and think.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Please elaborate... /QUOTE] Google her and see for yourself there is so much out there. Regarding my post above have a read of this - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/08/lower-age-consent-14-1979-home-office-report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Does anyone else see theresa may and think.... http://bp1.blogger.com/_3wuIn4z8Z5w/RfYlx6_OdVI/AAAAAAAAAAo/9FhzG2RAyRk/s400/evil_mr_burns2_1.png Definitely. The woman is a terrible choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 May and Clinton, could make some good trade deals, they could trade ann summers items You're a wrong'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Does anyone else see theresa may and think.... I just think of the mucky 90's top shelf model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianhid Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I'd really rather not have May running things, she's borderline evil. Also, she's really keen on keeping track of every bit of electronic communication you have. Only the metadata, honest. Not that it tells us who you were speaking to, when and roughly what about and from where, and where you've been in the country... Not that it will be used against you, obviously. If you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to hide. (How about if I've done nothing wrong, leave me alone?) Gove is very driven but somewhat unpredictable. He ruined education but he's undone a lot of harm as justice minister (mostly from the bumbling idiot, Grayling). I'm not decided about him at all. I don't know much about the others, I don't think they'll get much of a look in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I just think of the mucky 90's top shelf model. Oh yes, one of my favourites! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 If there was any doubt Theresa May should be locked away: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/may-hails-benefits-of-sharia-as-inquiry-set-up-into-misuse-of-is/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/8201521/Sex-offenders-including-paedophiles-should-be-allowed-to-adopt-Theresa-May-told.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/15/delay-investigatory-powers-bill-scrutiny-mps-second-reading-firms-campaigners She is a VERY bad choice for PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think you should proof read this article again, I think you are of the opinion it's May who advocates giving adoption and other rights to sex offenders. It's not.... And her take on Sharia law isn't that radical, in some ways she is likening it to going to mediation. She isn't advocating it usurping British law. I have no issues with enhanced surveillance techniques. The current climate with extremists plotting our demise demands it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-May-told.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think you should proof read this article again, I think you are of the opinion it's May who advocates giving adoption and other rights to sex offenders. It's not.... And her take on Sharia law isn't that radical, in some ways she is likening it to going to mediation. She isn't advocating it usurping British law. I have no issues with enhanced surveillance techniques. The current climate with extremists plotting our demise demands it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-May-told.html Agree - at 1st glance the headlines of the articles are misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Agree - at 1st glance the headlines of the articles are misleading. Surely not with our unbiased media! God it's like spin on spin, everyone has probably got a skeleton or two in their closet (and details/pictures of it in someone's filing cabinet ready to rubbish them at an opportune moment). It's all just endless bullshit and takes too much effort to try and see through all the bollocks. They tend to talk bollocks, the media misquote and twist their bollocks and somehow we are meant to decipher all the bollocks, I pretty much give up with it all and just rely on the fact that they have more to lose than me and hence my situation will be preserved by proxy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintinmt Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As above, it's exhausting trying to work out what might be true or not. I am more than disappointed by the BBC - although their demise has been underway for some considerable time now. I am now actively avoiding 'news'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I hope we get Andrea Leadsom or Liam Fox. Both supported us leaving and both aren't as despicable as May or Gove. We need leadership who want to take is in the direction in which we leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 As above, it's exhausting trying to work out what might be true or not. I am more than disappointed by the BBC - although their demise has been underway for some considerable time now. I am now actively avoiding 'news'. A lot of people avoid the news: unfortunately they then get their news & views from social media whilst simulatenously turning off their bull filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianhid Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I have no issues with enhanced surveillance techniques. The current climate with extremists plotting our demise demands it. [/url] I'd have to disagree with you there Chris. There have been very few (none?) recent terrorism cases where the attacker was not already known/under surveillance before starting. Adding more information and larger scale dragnets actually reduces the chances of people being picked up for monitoring, as there is simply too much information. https://theintercept.com/2015/11/18/terrorists-were-already-known-to-authorities/ https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/policy-papers/do-nsas-bulk-surveillance-programs-stop-terrorists/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/dragnet-nsa-spying-survives-2015-review http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/01/26/whole-haystack http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/europe/in-suspects-brussels-neighborhood-a-history-of-petty-crimes-and-missed-chances.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I have no issues with enhanced surveillance techniques. The current climate with extremists plotting our demise demands it. It's not ready. Ill thought out and technically flawed. I'm sure it reads fine to anyone that doesn't understand the Internet or computers - but for those of us that do, it's a melting pot of disaster. For instance. ISPs have to collect data on EVERYTHING you look at online. All your communications. Personally and your business. Where do they keep this data so it's safe? TalkTalk are great at that. Expect lots of industrial espionage, black mailing and other such joys. Then any government agency can access this data - even the environmental agencies can have access to anything about you. It will mean censorship in the extreme. Anything 'they' (whoever is employed in that position) deem unsuitable can be blocked online. With all these systems the Internet will slowdown. The ISPs will pass on the MASSIVE infrastructure bills to their customers - you and me. If someone hacks into your computer or network and starts doing illegal activity - that goes against YOUR account. How will you prove you didn't do it? I encourage everyone to read up on the Snoopers Charter, it is unfit for purpose as it currently is being pushed through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'd have to disagree with you there Chris. There have been very few (none?) recent terrorism cases where the attacker was not already known/under surveillance before starting. Adding more information and larger scale dragnets actually reduces the chances of people being picked up for monitoring, as there is simply too much information. https://theintercept.com/2015/11/18/terrorists-were-already-known-to-authorities/ https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/policy-papers/do-nsas-bulk-surveillance-programs-stop-terrorists/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/12/dragnet-nsa-spying-survives-2015-review http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/01/26/whole-haystack http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/world/europe/in-suspects-brussels-neighborhood-a-history-of-petty-crimes-and-missed-chances.html?_r=0 Well we/governments don't have full access yet to all data so you can't really measure it. Plus you haven't accounted for all the terrorists and acts that have been stopped due to snooping etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianhid Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Al, I've got a very good idea what kind of data this dragnet will grab (senior engineer with an ISP, we took a good look at the draft to work out what we might be required to store). For example looking at a couple months worth of data I can tell with reasonable certainty what your political standpoint is on matters, what gender you are, your sexual orientation (well, taste in porn at least), any 'unusual' interests you might have and any recent medical conditions. And that data is being kept at the lowest possible cost (we're a commercial org afterall) with (I bet) the ability for me to prod about in there with very little in the way of oversight. With a bit of stitching together I now also know everywhere you've been (your phone records tell us) with who (again, they probably have a phone) and why (looking back at any net traffic showing you looking up things at the location, calls made to people or businesses in the area, etc). If you're curious, have a read of this. http://news.stanford.edu/2016/05/16/stanford-computer-scientists-show-telephone-metadata-can-reveal-surprisingly-sensitive-personal-information/ It honestly scares me. I'd rather take the risk on terrorism, it's less dangerous in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Plus you haven't accounted for all the terrorists and acts that have been stopped due to snooping etc. that is a very good point. its a slippery slope nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Andrea Leadsom seems to be rallying support plus she's against HS2 which is a bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I thought she was a superb speaker in the pre referendum debates. I'd say she has a fair outside chance. Hell, these are wildly swinging political times, why not....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I thought she was a superb speaker in the pre referendum debates. I'd say she has a fair outside chance. Hell, these are wildly swinging political times, why not....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Heard Nicola Sturgeon was taking control of the U.K ,was just a rumour mind:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon197911 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Well, that's Farage gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra joe Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Just seen in the indipendent that lawyers are making a case to reverse the out decision... Watch the riots of this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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