Scott Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ditto! its because to me you have the attitude of someone who always believes he knows better. Me thinking I know better doesn't make me go around trying to contradict everything I read from people. I have a varied range of knowledge ascertained, in the Supra at least, mostly from my time on this forum. I'll accept that most of it is from people who I believe know better than me and who's opinion I value, but that doesn't mean I don't actually have any personal background in the sort of discussions we are having. You're very quick to snipe but very slow to actually add anything to a discussion that isn't contradicting someone else's comments. In this instance I have read plenty of people mention that oil gets past the seals when they start to get on in years, without any other issue. I apologise profusely if me wrongly saying rings instead of seals caused you so much angst, I genuinely wasn't giving my answer THAT much thought as I didn't feel it pertinent to the point... I'll try to do better in future. You're just a ray of sunshine on this forum though aren't you? Have you ever looked at your contribution to threads on this forum? Not being funny but it's as if you actively seek things to pick at. I noticed you focusing a bit of attention on me lately but having looked at your previous posts, I'm not taking it personally at all. Rather than having a discussion and suggesting that maybe I made a mistake with my terminology you just want to poke holes in the details as if you have something personal going on. With regards to this current discussion..... it shouldn't need a thicker oil, but it can help the starting issue without having to replace the stem seals. IMO that's the sort of information that the OP would be thankful of rather than trying to pick holes in a suggestion being made to him from another forum member while trying to help. You can disguise what you have said however you wish, if I hadn't contributed on this thread with some thoughts and suggestions my guess is that you wouldn't be here either as the last thing you would actually do is help someone without gaining some gratification from trying to ridicule another forum user. If peoples experience with the oil is completely wrong then I'm at the mercy of the knowledge on this forum, I genuinely don't know any better in that regard as I haven't experienced it. The fact that it starts fine after a service would suggest that I'm maybe onto something though..... would it not? As much as 5w30 may have been the recommendation at the time, I don't know anyone running an oil so thin. I run 5w40 now with a single turbo and fresh stem seals but I happily ran 10w50 for 5 years prior to doing the headwork, as was the recommendation in the oil faq at the time I made that decision (Silkolene 10w50 for BPU IIRC). I highly doubt that modern fully synthetic 10w50 oils would cause any issues with performance, drag or otherwise. No doubt you have some thoughts on how I'm wrong there also though. PS, you and my Wife would get on swimmingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 PS, you and my Wife would get on swimmingly. LOL, can my wife join in and give ME some peace too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Gents, didn't mean for this to turn ugly, I thank you guys for your input.. The stem seals are worn on my car, I have been waiting for my mac to get time to do the job.. I didn't realise that it can cause hard starting.. Regarding the oil, there are few options with 10W40 or 50 in full synthetic available locally.. Importing is a possibility but our currency is so weak, the price is hectic.. I guess i need to get the seals done and a 5W40 should be ok if I can't get a 10W40 or 50.. Thanks again, the posts have helped me for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 If its a cold start issue the 10w should help as I'm guessing you're a fairly hot climate for the most part? I would get that in and get the stem seals done when you can. As long as you aren't pouring reek out your exhaust it's fairly harmless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai 20V Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) If its a cold start issue the 10w should help as I'm guessing you're a fairly hot climate for the most part? I would get that in and get the stem seals done when you can. As long as you aren't pouring reek out your exhaust it's fairly harmless. The climate is warm, winter lowest I see is 12deg C.. I hope I can source the full synthetic 10W50, hinges on that now.. The car puffs on startup, a fair cloud, then clears up.. Edited February 18, 2016 by Samurai 20V (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Me thinking I know better doesn't make me go around trying to contradict everything I read from people. I have a varied range of knowledge ascertained, in the Supra at least, mostly from my time on this forum. I'll accept that most of it is from people who I believe know better than me and who's opinion I value, but that doesn't mean I don't actually have any personal background in the sort of discussions we are having. You're very quick to snipe but very slow to actually add anything to a discussion that isn't contradicting someone else's comments. In this instance I have read plenty of people mention that oil gets past the seals when they start to get on in years, without any other issue. I apologise profusely if me wrongly saying rings instead of seals caused you so much angst, I genuinely wasn't giving my answer THAT much thought as I didn't feel it pertinent to the point... I'll try to do better in future. You're just a ray of sunshine on this forum though aren't you? Have you ever looked at your contribution to threads on this forum? Not being funny but it's as if you actively seek things to pick at. I noticed you focusing a bit of attention on me lately but having looked at your previous posts, I'm not taking it personally at all. Rather than having a discussion and suggesting that maybe I made a mistake with my terminology you just want to poke holes in the details as if you have something personal going on. With regards to this current discussion..... it shouldn't need a thicker oil, but it can help the starting issue without having to replace the stem seals. IMO that's the sort of information that the OP would be thankful of rather than trying to pick holes in a suggestion being made to him from another forum member while trying to help. You can disguise what you have said however you wish, if I hadn't contributed on this thread with some thoughts and suggestions my guess is that you wouldn't be here either as the last thing you would actually do is help someone without gaining some gratification from trying to ridicule another forum user. If peoples experience with the oil is completely wrong then I'm at the mercy of the knowledge on this forum, I genuinely don't know any better in that regard as I haven't experienced it. The fact that it starts fine after a service would suggest that I'm maybe onto something though..... would it not? As much as 5w30 may have been the recommendation at the time, I don't know anyone running an oil so thin. I run 5w40 now with a single turbo and fresh stem seals but I happily ran 10w50 for 5 years prior to doing the headwork, as was the recommendation in the oil faq at the time I made that decision (Silkolene 10w50 for BPU IIRC). I highly doubt that modern fully synthetic 10w50 oils would cause any issues with performance, drag or otherwise. No doubt you have some thoughts on how I'm wrong there also though. PS, you and my Wife would get on swimmingly. I'm sue I would, for the reasons I mention below. So it transpires that I was right;) and you do seem to have an attitude and feel you do know better, its sad that you have to resort to running down any contributions that I have made, yes if I think someone has things wrong or incorrect IMO I will say so, and in your case this is often. I hate it when people quote misinformation and always try and give advice to the best of my abilities, which some people seem to appreciate. From my experience you seem to have a problem with anyone who doubts or disagrees with you, anyway I don't need to go into a small novel to state my case, suffice to say that you will go on to post you comment's even if they are incorrect, and I will endeavor to correct them if necessary, and If can be bothered with the resulting bitching. Anyway feel free to continue with your character defamation, I also have a wife and if I needed this kind of discourse I would say the wrong thing to her. Apologies to Samurai 20V, I wont post on this thread again, but if you need any further help please PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Worn valve stem seals won't affect cold starting. I would measure the resistance of the engine coolant temp sensor (the 2 wire one) *AT THE ECU CONNECTOR* with the connector unplugged, engine cold and engine hot. Don't knacker the female connectors in the ECU plug, back probe with needle probes from the wire side. Sometimes just unplugging the ECU connectors, spraying them and the ecu pins with good contact cleaner and plugging back in will cure mysterious faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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