Noz Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Inspired to make a listing of who has what BHP with what transmission and diff setup. Clutch be interesting too. I see this question asked TIME and time again. However, a register of actual horsepower successfully completed would be good to have. I'm only listing IF I know any problems with it. Just an idea for a good technical sticky, to have some basis for data. Transmission; V160 - Six Speed TT Mkiv Supra Predicted 900 ft lb R154 - Five Speed TT Mkiii Supra 1JZ Commonly predicted 700 ft lb. - Noz - ? remap required W58 - Five Speed NA transmission Mkiv 2JZGE Commonly advertised rated upto 400hp. Have seen over 500hp on handful of forum owned cars. Predicted 400 ft lb. - Noz - 417hp NA-t (popped after 3 years, shortly after drag racing on drag radials) - Berg - 400hp TT (two years, had no problems) A340E Auto 4 Speed NA mkiv Predicted 300 ft lb A343E - Auto 4 speed? TT mkiv Predicted 550 ft lb - gordy.r - 385hp 420ft lb TT A343/0E - Hybrid Predicted 600 ft lb - Dr_Jekyl - 500hp na-t BMW 320d e46 - Ollie Elmore BDC semi pro drifter, R33 2JZ with BMW box conversion - 590 whp etc. List information guys I can update the post Differential; A01A - Open Manual NA Diff - Noz - 417hp NA-t (popped afte 2 years, W58) A01B - LSD Manual NA Diff - Noz - 417hp NA-t - Berg - 459hp NA-t Open TT diff, whats the code for this? - gordy.r - 385hp 420ft lb TT Edited February 12, 2016 by Noz (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Great idea to have documented but would it be better to have it in torque as well as BHP as from what I understand its torque that kills gear boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 I can't remember my torque figures! But yes, I should list both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I can't remember my torque figures! But yes, I should list both. With a nice comprehensive list it would make a nice thread for the Newbies to read when they think they can run 1000bhp on a NA auto. Be a nice list of tried and tested facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Good idea Noz, make sure that folks talk includes talking in torque, especially yours, and this could make good reference. An A343/0E Hybrid transmission has I believe been run up to 550ftlb by dr_jekyll and maybe 600?ftlb by viper, but I have never had a straight answer from either of them? Jagman is soon to be running one up to 600ftlb? in his Soarer. Watch this space. I keep tabs on all of the Hybrids as best that I can, they sneak around and hide a bit, but they're all still out there tearing up tarmac somewhere? Here's a link to the life story of each and every one of them. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/group.php?discussionid=91&do=discuss P.S. Here you'll find the missing "commonly predicted" numbers to help you complete your chart. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?330771-New-owner-2JZGE-need-some-advice&p=4115952&viewfull=1#post4115952 Edited February 18, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I can't remember my torque figures! I nominate you for a willy waver quote award. Edited February 11, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Great idea for a thread. I hope to get a good figure out of my Getrag 420g to contribute to the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Im more convinced w58 can be protected and last longer with a more suitable clutch Most people either buy or are told to buy the juddery, harsh stage 4 onwards so will be interested to see what people are using there Mines BPU TT 400hp (cant remember torque will update post when i check dyno sheet) W58 Competition stage 2 clutch (drives like stock ) A01B LSD My old na-t W58 Spec stage 3 clutch A01B LSD Lasted nearly 2 years at this power, box still going strong in another na-t today Although never tracked, drag raced etc Edited February 11, 2016 by berg (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) With a nice comprehensive list it would make a nice thread for the Newbies to read when they think they can run 1000bhp on a NA auto. Be a nice list of tried and tested facts Those were the days eh. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?330771-New-owner-2JZGE-need-some-advice&p=4115952&viewfull=1#post4115952 I have given the above post your suggested title, maybe it'll make it easier to find? Edited February 11, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy.r Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Transmission: Auto box - TT Mkiv Supra J-spec Differential: Open Diff Dyno: 385bhp 420ft/lb (hot day in a hot dyno room - probably slightly higher figures on the road) - (new lsd to be fitted soon) Edited February 11, 2016 by gordy.r (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) The mileage at the time of failures would be useful information too. A taxed new transmission will last longer than taxing an old transmission, in other words, when buying a used box for an uprated task, the lower it's mileage the longer it will serve you. How many miles the box travelled at the uprated power before it failed would be useful information, as would be a History of road, track and drag activities. Edited February 11, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Added some data entries. We don't need a million bits, but I definitely think it would be useful in the technical section to have proven values of all power ranges with the different setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 We are "currently" running 600lbft through a Boostlogic built auto A343. Not sure if this counts, but thought it might be worth adding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Noz, alias Engineer Norris, This thread has the potential to be granted FAQ status, just think, your handle could be up there in lights on one of the opening menu's. I have already filed it to a link in both the N/A-T and Transmission Groups, to make it easy to find reference where this information may be needed most, if it ever happens that is? There's also a bundle of info for you in the given link on post #5. You won't get much of a response or/and that which will make any worthwhile data at all, until you stop d!ck!ng about and post up a comprehensible formatted list of required information on your Header Post please. Edited February 13, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) We are "currently" running 600lbft through a Boostlogic built auto A343. Not sure if this counts, but thought it might be worth adding. Of course it does, a transmission is a transmission, even if it is under a shed. Edited February 13, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I had 588lbs/ft through my UK Spec Autobox with no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICO-SUPRA Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi lads, currently running 334hp - 277lbs/ft on A340e 4 speed auto With no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 524 bhp 510ftlb on my tt auto 4 years running that maybe 15k , 180k on the clock and 65k at bpu, track day and santa pod once a year for thepassed 6 years I think supraturbolee will win that though with 700bhp 600ftlb from his stock tt auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Spot on Garry. That's a concise run down of most the info that may be relevant. Mr Noz wants to know what diff? I think you're winning the highest mileage? Edited February 13, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Vvti tiptronic bpu + 420 bhp No prob but I do run an extra cooler on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1192bhp and 885 lb/ft about 1350bhp and 1000 lb/ft torque at the flywheel on my car, thats with a stock 6 speed gearbox: http://www.garagewhifbitz.co.uk/images/stories/gw_images/forum pics/dynos383racefuel.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 How the hell do you keep any traction when the torque doubles within 500rpm?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 How the hell do you keep any traction when the torque doubles within 500rpm?! It's pretty good actually, well once you get in 3rd gear it grips. Combination of Nitron dampers, APR rear wing, OS Giken diff & R888 tyres all help to put the power down. The biggest factor is the APR wing, take that off and it wheel spins all the way through 4th gear, I know as I tried it! Just shows that it actually works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Spot on Garry. That's a concise run down of most the info that may be relevant. Mr Noz wants to know what diff? I think you're winning the highest mileage? My diff is a stock A02B , same miles as above , I think a key to longevity is fluid changes for both diff and trans with top quality brands and stock ecu with piggyback, I have noticed the stock map is very rich at gear change which would limit tourque, between 4 and 5k runs very low 10's afr Should also add that I have just one transmission cooler and have retained the stock heater / cooler in the stock rad Hope thats enough information now Dave Edited February 13, 2016 by mellonman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) I think a key to longevity is (regular) fluid changes with top quality brands Edited February 18, 2016 by David P (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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