rob.sherer Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Right guys, I have seen people converting their auto Supra's into the 6 speed manual that is found in BMW's M3 e46 Gatreg gearbox. I have seen a for sale add recently on the Facebook (Toyota Supra parts for sale Europe) page, with a Supra with this conversion, I was wondering if anyone on here has some experience doing this or know exactly what parts I would need to complete this conversion as I am very interested in going down this route. Any help would be appreciated. p.s. I have asked the guy on the add already but he says the previous owner had done this so he couldn't help me. Cheers, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 There isn't any definitive info on this swap on here. Driftworks would probably be a better place to start looking. Lyndon (NodAlmigty) on here knows of a company that can do these swaps properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navtrd Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Theres a company on facebook called gyrodrift based in kent i think they supply all the parts you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 cheers guys will be emailing/ringing them up when i next get a chance!! Cheers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 cheers guys will be emailing/ringing them up when i next get a chance!! Cheers!!! if you go ahead with this for the benefit of all the other threads about this (even a build thread that seem to went dead) can you give companys numbers and as much information for it please! for other members looking and asking these questions good luck Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 if you go ahead with this for the benefit of all the other threads about this (even a build thread that seem to went dead) can you give companys numbers and as much information for it please! for other members looking and asking these questions good luck Rob no worries already got hold of gyrodrift and they said they will give me a call later or an email with prices and so on. will either keep this thread updated or make a build thread And cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 When you're speaking to them, be specific about what you're using the car for. I've heard these conversions can be noisy and unpleasant to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Right guys, after getting in contact with gyrodrift i spoke with Frazer who seemed to be the man in charge. They do a conversion kit for £900 but you will still need to get gearbox and clutch pedal. Although for a fee of £2,200 they will fit it for you with all parts included. i have decided to do this plus upgrade to a standalone ECU (running Blue Greddy Piggy back at the moment) to a Link ecu. they will fit it all and map it with anti lag and launch control and Traction control for a very fair fee of £4000 total with the gearbox conversion!! The Gearbox he recomended was from a BMW 330d, which is the route i will be going down. He said the only draw back is that the gearbox can be a bit noisy but the car is soo bloody loud i doubt i would hear it anyways haha! He also mentioned that the gearbox's operation will be alot smoother than that of a v160 but i cant judge on that as i havent personally driven a 6 speed supra before. looks like my car may be going in end of march but will keep you all updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Did they say why they're noisy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Apparently because diesel gearbox's are? Well thats what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nootysupra Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I take it he didn't consider your final drive ratio before suggesting the 330d gearbox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRX Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Looking forward to feedback on this mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Apparently because diesel gearbox's are? Well thats what he said. So will his conversion work with an M3 box? I've driben plenty of manual bmw deisels (and owned one), I've never known them to be noisy. How do they fare up with the supra diff ratios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 i will be asking all these questions next time i speak with him guys and give you all the info he has given me. and i mentioned the M3 box but he said they are chocolate compared to the 330d boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra joe Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Will be keeping my eye on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 So will his conversion work with an M3 box? I've driben plenty of manual bmw deisels (and owned one), I've never known them to be noisy. How do they fare up with the supra diff ratios? yeah i currently own a 530d 6 speed manual and its not loud so will find out soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nootysupra Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 How do they fare up with the supra diff ratios? They don't! 2.47 on 330d vs 3.6 on the supra big case diff. They're fine if you like doing a ton at 2k and not having the power to pull the skin off a rice pudding in anything other than 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.sherer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 They don't! 2.47 on 330d vs 3.6 on the supra big case diff. They're fine if you like doing a ton at 2k and not having the power to pull the skin off a rice pudding in anything other than 1st. im not to sure what that means then if the diff ratio's dont match. what would happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Apparently because diesel gearbox's are? Well thats what he said. I drive a friend's 330D mnanual regularly, and it has a silent transmission. It will be "noisy" for one of 3 reasons. It's knackered, it doesn't have the right dual mass flywheel, it doesn't have the right dampened clutch plate or dampening in the propshaft, if 330D's have a dampened clutch plate or a dampened propshaft. PLEASE find out what the ratio of the gearbox's top gear is. Often diesel's are one to one and rely on something like 2.9 to 1 diff ratio for a sensible cruise RPM and top speed. You need a LOT more facts from Mr. Frazer. I am building a fun classic Volvo for myself, and it will have a none OE gearbox. It won't be noisy, and it will have a sensible spread of ratios. Achieving it is not trivial, and rarely cheap. Tread warily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I am building a fun classic Volvo for myself, and it will have a none OE gearbox. It won't be noisy, and it will have a sensible spread of ratios. Please post up a build thread on the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Please post up a build thread on the forum It will be a cheap and cheerful shell ( I just bought a LHD 1987 740 estate, LHD ones don't have that PITA steering column where a big turbo wants to go...) and a nice engine, gearbox and suspension. If I like it I will probably import a totally rust free 2 door 240 roller, or maybe a 940 roller, in white, from a dry US state. I just missed one two weeks back, it's gone from Arizona back to where it was made, Sweden. Just bought a brand new engine block, and about to order a stroker crank and rods and a new head casting. Accumulating other stuff as and when I see a bargain. The wife drove the 740 back from the pub last night, and thinks I have finally gone off my head. Hideous, old man's car, wallowing rattling shed, embarrassing, eyesore, get it round the back. I got the lot. I was quite flattered, she has appalling taste in cars In the pub she asked me if I was going to sell some of the other "junk" about the place. I had to dash to the toilet in fear of wetting myself laughing. Going from 87 tech N/A 2.3 to a 2.8 all steel turbo lump should waken the thing up, if not tear the back axle out of it... I'll try and get some photos once things get going. It's a sideline project, I just loved my old turbo 244 and how only my best mate, who was more often pissed than sober, was the only person who would be a passenger in it more than once. I hadn't much money and couldn't afford a decent gearbox, so I had changing scrap yard 4 speeders down to a fine art. I think I destroyed about 4 boxes, always third gear, toothless like a Moss Side crack addict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Great stuff I was at a local trackday at Elvington (before all the nimbys moved in and stopped them ), and someone turned up in an ex works Volvo 480 race car. I have no ideal what discipline it was used in, but you could tell this car hadn't been slapped together in someones shed. It ran rings around everything else, including the Caterhams, Porches etc. It's a shame the road going versions are so poorly put together, because the 480 turbo is a lot of fun for a FWD hatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 480 race car? I will have to try and find out about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Of course, the guy could have been feeding me a load of BS But it was obviously a professional job, and it was mega fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfrancis85 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 I've recently done this conversion.. See my newby thread - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?330698-New-Member-2JZ-Powered-AC-Cobra It looks like the company that you're going to get this conversion done are importing in the parts in from PMC as they are using PMC's photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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