Chris Wilson Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What a waste of time, as if Theresa May is going to ban a potential USA president..... It's obvious he's coming, the UK government are spending millions teaching these Bangladeshi and other foreign speaking, scarf wearing women already over here to talk in English so they can shout at him in a coherent manner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What good would come from banning him? The way to deal with someone like that is do invite them to open, frank and fair debate, with people of differing and opposing views, and defeat their argument with facts. Banning him would give him the angle that the British don't allow free speech, and would simply strengthen his opinions and his resolve. People may complain about our democracy, but it is so much better than the Americans get. The whole US presidential race is the definition of the old proverb; 'It's not what you know, it's who you know'. Littered with candidates who are there because of money and family connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What good would come from banning him? The way to deal with someone like that is do invite them to open, frank and fair debate, with people of differing and opposing views, and defeat their argument with facts. Banning him would give him the angle that the British don't allow free speech, and would simply strengthen his opinions and his resolve. People may complain about our democracy, but it is so much better than the Americans get. The whole US presidential race is the definition of the old proverb; 'It's not what you know, it's who you know'. Littered with candidates who are there because of money and family connections. You literally just described British politics. It's all about them coming from money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 You literally just described British politics. It's all about them coming from money. David Cameron, yes granted, he's from a wealthy background IIRC. But Jeremy Corbyn? I agree the Trump debate is a pointless waste of time, I wouldn't be surprised if it were started by a campaign on Faceache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They let our own nationals go and fight in Syria and then come back ,so i dont see what the big deal is letting Trump in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc92 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The whole petitions site is a waste of time. Unfortunately a lot of the electorate are as intelligent as a cucumber so they make these pointless timewasting demands which nothing will ever come of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzzyuzzy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What a waste of time, as if Theresa May is going to ban a potential USA president..... It's obvious he's coming, the UK government are spending millions teaching these Bangladeshi and other foreign speaking, scarf wearing women already over here to talk in English so they can shout at him in a coherent manner Scarf wearing, yes you will find a lot of these scarf wearing women in the current cold months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 You literally just described British politics. It's all about them coming from money. Oh, don't get me wrong, it is far from perfect here. But it is so much better than it is there. And that's before all the relentless TV electioneering, posters on every lamp post etc. Although even that beats EU 'democracy', which is a true sham, and is nothing more than authoritarianism lightly veiled by a parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 What a waste of time, as if Theresa May is going to ban a potential USA president..... It's obvious he's coming, the UK government are spending millions teaching these Bangladeshi and other foreign speaking, scarf wearing women already over here to talk in English so they can shout at him in a coherent manner Love him, winds up the Lefties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If he gets voted in, there will be hell toupee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If he gets voted in, there will be hell toupee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Regardless of whether we agree with Trump's views or not he is an american presidential candidate and hence can't be ignored - as Alex Salmond is finding out...... I wonder whether the reaction would have been different had he been an electoral candidate of a less important country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Regardless of whether we agree with Trump's views or not he is an american presidential candidate and hence can't be ignored - as Alex Salmond is finding out...... I wonder whether the reaction would have been different had he been an electoral candidate of a less important country. That's just made me think about something. How come to be President of the USA, you have to jump through hoops, televised debates, make strong, controversial or even offensive speeches, and go on huge fund raising drives around the states. Yet, to be President of Europe, one of the highest paid politicians in the world, president of a union with 150m more people than the USA, and the largest trading bloc in the world, the president is 'elected' in secretive back room deals? The decision is made before any debate, there are no televised debates etc, and no one outside the EU HQ gets to cast a single vote. I suppose it's purely coincidental that the EU'S founder, Jean Monnet, was a puppet of the zionist Rothchild dynasty, as were the EU's subsequent leaders. And that the EU President and Commission are very close with the Bilderberg group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Hang on a minute somethings up here Jay, you sound like me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Hang on a minute somethings up here Jay, you sound like me now I hate the EU with a passion. Discounting it's shambolic track record, it is an affront to democracy, and is basically a vessel to syphon money from the average European into the pockets of wealthy elites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 If he gets voted in, there will be hell toupee. I like that. I like that a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 That's just made me think about something. How come to be President of the USA, you have to jump through hoops, televised debates, make strong, controversial or even offensive speeches, and go on huge fund raising drives around the states. Yet, to be President of Europe, one of the highest paid politicians in the world, president of a union with 150m more people than the USA, and the largest trading bloc in the world, the president is 'elected' in secretive back room deals? The decision is made before any debate, there are no televised debates etc, and no one outside the EU HQ gets to cast a single vote. I suppose it's purely coincidental that the EU'S founder, Jean Monnet, was a puppet of the zionist Rothchild dynasty, as were the EU's subsequent leaders. And that the EU President and Commission are very close with the Bilderberg group. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 That's just made me think about something. How come to be President of the USA, you have to jump through hoops, televised debates, make strong, controversial or even offensive speeches, and go on huge fund raising drives around the states. Yet, to be President of Europe, one of the highest paid politicians in the world, president of a union with 150m more people than the USA, and the largest trading bloc in the world, the president is 'elected' in secretive back room deals? The decision is made before any debate, there are no televised debates etc, and no one outside the EU HQ gets to cast a single vote. I suppose it's purely coincidental that the EU'S founder, Jean Monnet, was a puppet of the zionist Rothchild dynasty, as were the EU's subsequent leaders. And that the EU President and Commission are very close with the Bilderberg group. And I like that too, very much. Good posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I debated about a trump earlier. I didn't end well....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanya Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Good to know that people on this forum realise that the face of any western government are only puppets and puppeteers are behind the back. But I am fascinated how they twisted the society to think that they make decisions... Regardless who is the next president, this will not change what US will do. It was funny to see how new presidents start up and then compare them in a few years time )) brightest example Obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Good to know that people on this forum realise that the face of any western government are only puppets and puppeteers are behind the back. But I am fascinated how they twisted the society to think that they make decisions... Regardless who is the next president, this will not change what US will do. It was funny to see how new presidents start up and then compare them in a few years time )) brightest example Obama Money talks. I've always said that. Parliament, whether it's the EU, UK or US is simply a theatre to appear like a democracy is being operated when In fact it's nothing more than an act. The EU doesn't even hide it. The IMF is an elite collection plate as the intesrest rates are such a joke. I could go on and on about why you shouldn't have money in politics and why the control passes from the people to those with the money but it doesn't seem like anyone cares that much or isn't willing to do anything about it. Politics will not change through a democratic, peaceful demonstration. It's a system, systems are always designed and this one is pretty damn perfect for those in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanya Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 This is why they designed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Money talks. I've always said that. Parliament, whether it's the EU, UK or US is simply a theatre to appear like a democracy is being operated when In fact it's nothing more than an act. The EU doesn't even hide it. The IMF is an elite collection plate as the intesrest rates are such a joke. I could go on and on about why you shouldn't have money in politics and why the control passes from the people to those with the money but it doesn't seem like anyone cares that much or isn't willing to do anything about it. Politics will not change through a democratic, peaceful demonstration. It's a system, systems are always designed and this one is pretty damn perfect for those in control. The difference with the UK is that the Armed forces pledge allegiance to the Monarch, not to the government. So if things got so desperate, it would be entirely possible to overthrow the government. When the EU gets its army (and it is trying), the EU President and Commission will be so well entrenched that this would be impossible. They will be able to order their troops to kill rebels for treason. The Queen would never allow that here. That is why it's so important to leave before the real land grabbing begins. And as a bonus, the UK leaving would be a real kick in the nuts for the ultra capitalists, political elite, Zionists and the Tory and Labour parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The difference with the UK is that the Armed forces pledge allegiance to the Monarch, not to the government. So if things got so desperate, it would be entirely possible to overthrow the government. When the EU gets its army (and it is trying), the EU President and Commission will be so well entrenched that this would be impossible. They will be able to order their troops to kill rebels for treason. The Queen would never allow that here. That's worryingly closer than a lot of people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The difference with the UK is that the Armed forces pledge allegiance to the Monarch, not to the government. So if things got so desperate, it would be entirely possible to overthrow the government. When the EU gets its army (and it is trying), the EU President and Commission will be so well entrenched that this would be impossible. They will be able to order their troops to kill rebels for treason. The Queen would never allow that here. That is why it's so important to leave before the real land grabbing begins. And as a bonus, the UK leaving would be a real kick in the nuts for the ultra capitalists, political elite, Zionists and the Tory and Labour parties. Although he speask a fair bit of crap at times, Farrage hit the nail on the head in terms of the Eu Presidency a few years ago with this speech: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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