j_jza80 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I thought I'd post this up on here in case anyone is looking for a turbo, a friend of mine is changing the turbo on his R34 Skyline GTR, so his current GTX3582R is for sale. It's barely done any mileage (circa 2000) and has only ever been run at low boost. Apparently he paid around £1800 for it a few months ago, though Garrett had a price increase a few weeks ago. So, it's a GTX3582R. Billet wheel, dual ball bearing, water cooled core, with a 0.82ar twin scroll turbine housing. T4 flange and a 3.5" vband downpipe flange. This turbo is very well suited to the Supra, with a very impressive blend of low end response and top end power (probably circa 750hp if pushed), but due to it's very fast response, would suit all builds of 500hp+ £1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 These are perfect for a street Supra. 550-600bhp and stock like spool. GLWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 These are perfect for a street Supra. 550-600bhp and stock like spool. GLWS. Am I not right in thinking 550-600 was for the GT35R, the GTX being a 700hp+ turbo but with GT35R spool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 https://turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/turbocharger#GTX3582R Horsepower : 450 - 750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Yeah, that's what I had in my head Thanks for the link As Johnny said though, it will produce all this power and spool quicker than the stock twins. Similar turbo to what I'm using in my build, though I went with the 3576R as I only want 600hp max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 This is one of the few turbos on my current shortlist, along with the 6266 Gen2 DBB. Hrmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 Both great turbos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemanhead Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Ask you're friend what A/R the turbo is, then you will know how much air it can flow and what power it will make surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crock Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Ask you're friend what A/R the turbo is, then you will know how much air it can flow and what power it will make surely ? It says in the advert 2nd paragraph 1st line This is the exact turbo I'm looking for but it's just the wrong time for me, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywalls Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Mine will be going in for a single turbo conversion in the summer, Im pulling my hair out as to which turbo to go for. I'm after 700-750hp but I don't want to get a smaller turbo that will be working max chat to make this power I'd rather have something that can comfortably make them figures but with the quickest spool possible! How does the gtx3582 compare to boostlab 66mm or borg Warner s300sx range or precision 6266? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 They're all comparable. But the bigger the turbo, the slower the response will generally be (if it's a decent turbo). So a turbo that will comfortably make x power at low boost will almost certainly spool slower than a smaller turbo at high boost. Thing is, this turbo has barely done any mileage, the car has only been driven on the road, and it offers at least a £500 saving over a comparable brand new Garrett, Precision or Borg Warner Turbo. (when doing your comparison, make sure they're like for like. The Garrett has a water cooled dual ball bearing core, not all the billet turbos do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywalls Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yeah I see what you're saying, so really to get the best spool/ power combo you need one that is more or less maxed out at the desired figures. This is where everything turns swahili. I know ball bearing turbos are better than journal bearing turbos for better response, but some of the Garretts are dual ball bearing so how much better is a dual ball bearing turbo? And then water/air cooled I'm guessing water cooled is more effective? Am I right in saying Borg Warner are all journal bearing turbos? Sorry to hijack your for sale thread mate pm me instead if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 No worries They might be questions that others want the answers to anyway Garrett GTX are always water cooled and Dual ball bearing. I believe that Precision Gen 2 CEA turbos have both as an option, and Borg Warner EFR is dual ball bearing, with a watercooled option. However, if you were wanting decent performance but reduced cost, they all do lower spec performance turbos too (Garrett GT and GTW, Borg Warner SXE, Precision non CEA etc) Dual ball bearing cores are supposed to spool quicker, at additional cost. I don't think you can really go wrong with any of those brands though, I stick with Garrett because it's what I've always used and have never had any issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywalls Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Ahh it all makes sense now Is it just me or do the Borg Warner turbos make that distinctive flutter noisr when letting off the throttle. You have any videos of your Garrett tubbys mate can't seem to find much on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 The flutter (compressor stall) can be achieved by running without a dump valve / blow off valve. I've only run one Supra with a Garrett turbo, a GT3582R, and sadly I don't have any video. But search for GT35R or GTX35R and you should find some examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywalls Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Compressor stall isn't good for the turbine blades is it? Or is that just a myth... No problem thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 You hear mixed things about that. But Chris Wilson is adamant they are purely for suppressing sound, and he knows his stuff I'm running a BOV on my new build because I want to eliminate any risk of one of the intercooler pipes popping off compressor stall sounds fantastic though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywalls Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Haha yeah I was going to say the same he is pretty adamant! I don't think I'll be running a bov once the conversion is done I could never get sick of that turbo flutter! Thanks for educating me tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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