np89 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I have no doubt they did but when it comes to turbocharging the NA they will bend, seen loads at right angles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Actually the GE Rods are pathetically stick thin compared to the GTE rods I've had them out side by side, and there is not difference at all. I'm sure if you check Toyodiy then the part numbers are also identical. IIRC the only exception is the GE VVTi, which does have weaker rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Ok apologies i stand corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm_93 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 So if that's the case, what is the maximum power output that could be achieved from the stock pre-VVTi GE with either a thicker head gasket or GTE pistons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np89 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well the crank is definitely the same and if as Josh says the rods are the same your only difference is the pistons themselves at their stock CR boosted I would say 600bhp is going to be the max before you start getting big DET issues. But would be mighty responsive at that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) It's not really power that's the limit but boost pressure. I think it's around 1.8bar. There's a few threads where it's been calculated. I noticed that Brian Crower now do a set of cams for the GE engine. If you're still running a dizzy setup that would be a nice addition for 600hp. But if you're thinking coil packs, TT ones will fit with the right work EDIT: T.T. pistons with T.T. head-gasket = static compression 8.1:1 ~ Capacity for more boost than bottom end can take and give a laggy launch ~ Squish 3.25mm T.T. pistons with N/A head-gasket = static compression 9.0:1 ~ Good for 2 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 1.14mm (750? bhp) N/A pistons with T.T. head-gasket = static compression 9.2:1 ~ Good for 1.8 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 2.15mm (700? bhp) N/A pistons with N/A head-gasket = static compression 10:1 ~ Good for 1 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 1.14mm (500? bhp) Edited December 16, 2015 by Style (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm_93 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 It's not really power that's the limit but boost pressure. I think it's around 1.8bar. There's a few threads where it's been calculated. I noticed that Brian Crower now do a set of cams for the GE engine. If you're still running a dizzy setup that would be a nice addition for 600hp. But if you're thinking coil packs, TT ones will fit with the right work EDIT: T.T. pistons with T.T. head-gasket = static compression 8.1:1 ~ Capacity for more boost than bottom end can take and give a laggy launch ~ Squish 3.25mm T.T. pistons with N/A head-gasket = static compression 9.0:1 ~ Good for 2 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 1.14mm (750? bhp) N/A pistons with T.T. head-gasket = static compression 9.2:1 ~ Good for 1.8 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 2.15mm (700? bhp) N/A pistons with N/A head-gasket = static compression 10:1 ~ Good for 1 Bar (99 RON) ~ Squish 1.14mm (500? bhp) Very useful information! I think 1.8bar (26psi) would be more than enough boost I am planning to run. Think with a medium sized turbo a good spool too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_sri Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Redacted Standalone is the best option mate for sure but that being said im running 450 and 500lbft on a emanage ultimate with no issue.. and Greg at protuner (who is also a brilliant mapper) was slating me for a long time about not getting a standalone system but was actually pretty pleased with the results.. Edited December 20, 2015 by Ian C (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parm_93 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Redacted Standalone is the best option mate for sure but that being said im running 450 and 500lbft on a emanage ultimate with no issue.. and Greg at protuner (who is also a brilliant mapper) was slating me for a long time about not getting a standalone system but was actually pretty pleased with the results.. Redacted Initially I was always going to go for a EMU, but after seeing what you lot are recommending, and for the extra functionality I think standalone is the way to go. Once it's done it can be left alone I guess. Edited December 20, 2015 by Ian C (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Short memories round here. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?280959-Legal-Action-threat-from-Future-Motorsports-and-Bijal-of-Future-Motorsports&highlight=bijal+future+motorsports "No discussion, good or bad can be had about Future Motorsports." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 One thing you need to bare in mind is that squish has a beneficial effect on both combustion efficacy and det, just cant remember if adding too much boost with small squish is not a good idea or not, might be a good idea to check before buying piston's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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