FOSTA Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Hi guys, I'm sure my syvecs only has the minimum needed sensors to get the car working properly but I'm thinking of getting any extra sensors that may benefit me!? I also now have a toucan display. At the moment I have a AEM wideband and the syvecs is using that as the oxygen sensor. If this fine or would it be best getting the syvecs it's own lambada sensor!? Also what other sensors? Oil pressure, oil temp, any others? Edited December 10, 2015 by FOSTA (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony tt Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 There's an oil and fuel pressure sensor already fitted on the car mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOSTA Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 There's an oil and fuel pressure sensor already fitted on the car mate. Ah right awesome dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Lambada? *LAMBDA* Lambada is some sort of pseudo tribal dancing from Brazil...... Oil pressure and fuel pressure are the most useful things to monitor in my opinion, but you can get carried away and run into things looking at too much information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Good question, I'd be interested to know too mate. I assume if you install additional sensors no further remapping is needed, only recalibration of the syvecs settings via laptop ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 You first need to find out what the car has. - Oil Pressure - Fuel Pressure - Lambda Then you need to know how many inputs there are left over? Items like Oil Temperature can be useful to apply limits to the engine till oil reaches 70 degrees or over 120, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Lambada? *LAMBDA* Lambada is some sort of pseudo tribal dancing from Brazil...... Oil pressure and fuel pressure are the most useful things to monitor in my opinion, but you can get carried away and run into things looking at too much information That's the reason why many (including myself) go with Syvecs. You don't need to monitor the levels, the ECU will shut down the engine if any anomalies show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Good question, I'd be interested to know too mate. I assume if you install additional sensors no further remapping is needed, only recalibration of the syvecs settings via laptop ? Unless you "tell" the ecu to use additional sensor outputs to specifically trim the various maps or do "other things" like shut down the engine or allow only low boost, you can use the sensors to just run a display or a warning light. In the latter examples there would be no need to remap fuelling or ignition or cam timing, you would just be altering ECU settings that had no effect on those maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Unless you "tell" the ecu to use additional sensor outputs to specifically trim the various maps or do "other things" like shut down the engine or allow only low boost, you can use the sensors to just run a display or a warning light. In the latter examples there would be no need to remap fuelling or ignition or cam timing, you would just be altering ECU settings that had no effect on those maps. Thank you for clarifying Chris. My thinking was having an input installed for Fuel Pressure and having that feeding to a gauge on my phone via the Bluetooth module linked to Syvecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you had fuel pressure, I'd have that forming the input to a strategy. If you lose fuel pressure and go lean under boost, it's bye bye engine. And you'll notice quick enough to do anything about it when monitoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you had fuel pressure, I'd have that forming the input to a strategy. If you lose fuel pressure and go lean under boost, it's bye bye engine. And you'll notice quick enough to do anything about it when monitoring. Yes, why the hell would you want to fiddle with your phone to view fuel pressure? You want to concentrate on driving, the fewer things distracting you the better. Either a big bright LED to warn of low fuel pressure on boost or a function to kill boost if low fuel pressure is seen, similarly with oil pressure., Ideally a strategy AND lights! I am not a fan of low or high *ANYTHING* killing the engine altogether, Sod's Law states it will happen pulling out of a blind junction, or whilst overtaking. But you need to know, and know fast, without scanning gauges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Yes, why the hell would you want to fiddle with your phone to view fuel pressure? You want to concentrate on driving, the fewer things distracting you the better. Either a big bright LED to warn of low fuel pressure on boost or a function to kill boost if low fuel pressure is seen, similarly with oil pressure., Ideally a strategy AND lights! I am not a fan of low or high *ANYTHING* killing the engine altogether, Sod's Law states it will happen pulling out of a blind junction, or whilst overtaking. But you need to know, and know fast, without scanning gauges. Indeed. Limp mode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Batting along and you notice the sound of strange "music", you have received a text message, which many believe to be more important than the Green Cross Code. Dear Sheefa, Your engine has just died. Yours sincerely Syvecs Maybe you could program a special bleep for Syvec texts, then you could know without getting out of bed that it was being driven as if it was stolen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 A text message with punctuation and capitalisation? Wow, what sort of `phone is that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Apparently they can all do that, however, it is dependent on the lumen's of the sender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Apparently they can all do that, however, it is dependent on the lumen's of the sender. Lovely stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Maybe there's an ap for bespoke sensor ring tones? Here's one for the O2 sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 They have just danced their way across Croatia and are heading for Germany, I saw them on a news clip And to think we sent missionaries to China... I wonder if they have Bosch sponsorship, courtesy of Angela? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Batting along and you notice the sound of strange "music", you have received a text message, which many believe to be more important than the Green Cross Code. Dear Sheefa, Your engine has just died. Yours sincerely Syvecs Maybe you could program a special bleep for Syvec texts, then you could know without getting out of bed that it was being driven as if it was stolen? Haha point duly made David & Chris! I was going to hook Fuel Pressure up directly to ECU for monitoring/preventing problems anyway but it still would be "nice" to see a visual. Text message functionality is a great idea though you @rse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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