Delboy52 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Am looking to replace all 4 front suspension arms, upper and lower. Prefer to just replace with OEM if I can find them all but as an alternative, what are peoples thoughts on using aftermarket non premium arms? I don't use it as a race or track car. Deadly risk or bargain find? http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=1994+Toyota+Supra+Control+Arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well, of all the arms the front top ones are perhaps the most lightly loaded, so let us know how you get on Don't forget the ludicrous US "driver and passenger side" description means something totally different over here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yes, I've come across that driver/passenger side nonsense before in a Seat manual describing where to find the fuse box.. Left and right would be universal worldwide, and use less ink.. Will give the uppers a go from the US site, lowers will be OEM. Thanks Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Came to fit those new upper arms today that I bought from America last year and are gauranteed to fit an MKIV Supra.. Didn't go so well as the pics show. Called Toyota to be reminded what I already knew, £430 for the pair but discontinued. America failed me, maybe try China?.. Left upper: http://www.yiparts.com/toyota,control_arm,4863019025,en.html Right upper: http://www.yiparts.com/toyota,control_arm,4861019025,en.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Jesus they're an absolute mile off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I didn't realise that Toyota had started discontinuing the suspension components. I was wanting to do a full refresh next year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 They are but you can still get all the bits, but obviously only till they run out. I bought all new oem arms and components about 6 months ago, eye watering total price but it was a piece of mind thing. Atleast I know I haven't got to worry about them for the rest of the life of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 They are but you can still get all the bits, but obviously only till they run out. I bought all new oem arms and components about 6 months ago, eye watering total price but it was a piece of mind thing. At least I know I haven't got to worry about them for the rest of the life of the car. I plan on buying all new and getting all the arms powdercoated for the same reasons. But due to some pretty significant overspending on my single turbo conversion, I may just buy the parts next year and then just start the project when I feel the suspension is feeling tired. However, I'm not convinced they will remain discontinued indefinitely. Toyota discontinued the rear screen seals a few years ago, and they can be bought new now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Powder coating the new arms isn't a bad shout if I'm honest. As stated mine have been on the car for about 6 months and already starting to look abit old. Whatever Toyota coated them with isn't the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I bought all my new oem bits from whifbits, gave a good discount as bought it all in one go. I may powder coat too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Powder coating the new arms isn't a bad shout if I'm honest. As stated mine have been on the car for about 6 months and already starting to look abit old. Whatever Toyota coated them with isn't the best! Maybe the new arms aren't coated as well as the older ones? I know the UK calipers have different coatings now compared to the older ones. Powdercoating works wonders, but I suspect it will be a soul destroying job pressing those brand new bushes out and then back in again. I would probably have to buy a press too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Tried Blueprint? Also Soarers share the same part number for front upper arms, so that might widen your search. Sure the whole front end is the same actually. Edited March 9, 2016 by Swampy442 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 1993 Soarer 1JZGTE has different part numbers from the Supra. ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-29035 48610-29046 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-29035 48630-29046 1995 Supra 2JZGTE ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-19025 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-19025 If anyone has some links to places where upper arms can be bought I'm all ears. OEM ideally. Tried this place but no luck, http://www.blue-print.com. Is the one you mean Swampy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts?cat=89&sub=1354&sec=1562&var=38&dc=y They reckon they can still get them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1993 Soarer 1JZGTE has different part numbers from the Supra. ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-29035 48610-29046 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-29035 48630-29046 1995 Supra 2JZGTE ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-19025 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-19025 If anyone has some links to places where upper arms can be bought I'm all ears. OEM ideally. Tried this place but no luck, http://www.blue-print.com. Is the one you mean Swampy? I got these the other day, I have some used genuine top arms too so will check the dimensions tomorrow to check they aren't like your ones above and that they'll actually fit at least. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?331214-Pattern-suspension-parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I plan on buying all new and getting all the arms powdercoated for the same reasons. But due to some pretty significant overspending on my single turbo conversion, I may just buy the parts next year and then just start the project when I feel the suspension is feeling tired. However, I'm not convinced they will remain discontinued indefinitely. Toyota discontinued the rear screen seals a few years ago, and they can be bought new now. What will happen to the bushes and ball joints when they go in the oven at 200C ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1993 Soarer 1JZGTE has different part numbers from the Supra. ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-29035 48610-29046 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-29035 48630-29046 1995 Supra 2JZGTE ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER, RH 48610-19025 ARM ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION, UPPER LH 48630-19025 If anyone has some links to places where upper arms can be bought I'm all ears. OEM ideally. Tried this place but no luck, http://www.blue-print.com. Is the one you mean Swampy? I got all my oem arms from ICP parts and TCB parts. They are the cheapest by far mate. http://www.importcarparts.co.uk http://www.tcbparts.co.uk Whifbitz prices are a lot higher compared to both these places. Was a big difference in totals when I calculated it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j_jza80 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 What will happen to the bushes and ball joints when they go in the oven at 200C ? As I mentioned in a following post. I intend to fully disassemble them first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Isn't the point that they can't be fully disassembled? You can obviously do what you like with your new arms but they don't corrode through or anything so you are risking ruining new expensive arms for cosmetic appearance or something that lives under the car? Perhaps just wire brush and re-hammerite them in year 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evinX Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I dont think powercoating will do much help, the metal is solid. Id be more worried about bushes and ball joints. Is it not possible to replace the baljoint/knuckles in anyway? would be cheaper for alot of us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I dont think powercoating will do much help, the metal is solid. Id be more worried about bushes and ball joints. Is it not possible to replace the baljoint/knuckles in anyway? would be cheaper for alot of us... Nope, I need a new lower arm but was told it's a new arm or nothing. Typical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 The Soarer front arms are the same shape as the Supra ones but the bushes are different, they have more voids in than the Supra. Maybe for comfort? From memory the other difference is there is a mid life change in the Supra arms, the diameter of the bolt that mounts them to the car changes but the Soarer doesn't have that change. A lot of Soarer owners found that the price for the Soarer arms was almost double that of the Supra arms due to the 'Lexus' badge fest so they went down the Supra arm route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy52 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thanks for all the info guys. http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/ appear to be out of stock on oem upper arms but have patent equivalents available. Read the horror story in Scooter's other thread about arms braking, worrying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well here are some pics of the non genuine arms I have, which look like they will fit fine. They have the little ridge in the casting for the bracket for the abs wiring and dimensionally seem spot on. Obviously can't tell the alloy or bush quality but visually they pass the test and the German supplier don't seem too back street? I'm going to go with genuine bottom arms just trying to decide if the facelifts are worth the extra..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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