Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 15 months of UK bombing Iraq, an no one can provide evidence of even one civilian casualty attributed to UK strikes http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/04/is-uk-claim-zero-civilian-casualties-iraq-airstrikes-credible I would say that's a pretty good record. You didn't read the article before linking did you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Did you? It attributed deaths to the coalition, but could not specifically to UK strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Did you? It attributed deaths to the coalition, but could not specifically to UK strikes. Only because it's not possible to verify, it is essentially saying there probably are, that it's more likely that there are than there are not. It's literally contradicting what you're saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 That's just conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackyBoi Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I think it's pretty obvious civilians will die no matter who's doing the bombing. But that's war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 That's just conjecture. No, it's contradicting what you are saying. That looks very silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I think it's pretty obvious civilians will die no matter who's doing the bombing. But that's war. Oh that's ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Well, at this pointing think I'm going to duck out of this thread, because once you start trying to override published facts with speculation and conjecture, it all starts to get a bit silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Are we having a Holy War, or a Pacifists Anonymous meeting? There was none of this old guff about how we might be hurting innocent people during the last two world wars, we just got on with it and let `em `ave it, as much of it as we could make, as often as possible. The Liberals so often touted by the media seem to want a sterile war with no collateral damage, no kids hurt, and no soft targets hit, even if schools, hospitals and suchlike are the place of choice for jihadists to set up shop. On the basis of fighting with both arms behind our backs we might as well save our money and keep our few `planes on the ground. Anyway, surely there can't be any peace loving Syrians left there, they all seem to be here in Europe. Syria is at war with itself though, as a country it has not invaded any other country let alone looking like threatening ours it just houses a group of nasty bastards we want rid of amongst the general populace. Dresden etc was nasty for civilians but their country was definitely at war and it was a whatever it takes scenario, our complete way of life was at stake. I think the average civilian in Syria is far more innocent and deserves consideration not to be part of a just let them have it campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Simple solution to this. All western influence pulls out. Isis are killing more people then any bomb is. They are also killing more Muslims then any other faith. Surely we should just let them carry on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Simple solution to this. All western influence pulls out. Isis are killing more people then any bomb is. They are also killing more Muslims then any other faith. Surely we should just let them carry on? I'd agree to a point Al but the Assad regime is killing and has killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands more than IS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'd agree to a point Al but the Assad regime is killing and has killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands more than IS. And didn't everyone moan when our government wanted to do something about it? Hence why the rebels and freedom fighters started. There is so much hypocrisy it's unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 And didn't everyone moan when our government wanted to do something about it? Hence why the rebels and freedom fighters started. There is so much hypocrisy it's unreal. Probably, personally Assad should always have been number one. Shit - someone has just had their throat slit in London underground - attacker shouted "this is for Syria" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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imi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 [ATTACH]207294[/ATTACH] have ISIS claimed responsibility already? what about this one http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-35027049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 we just got started - mud slinging already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 It was Russians, that was all over twitter yesterday. About 20 regime forces killed in error by Russia. Think that's called friendly fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Seems Mr Trump is offering a radical idea on the back of his Presidential bid. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-us_5665f75de4b072e9d1c7252b Despite indignant noises from the Liberals he appears to enjoy quite a lot of support for his idea. This is one Presidential run up that is interesting to watch, a few months ago he was a laughing stock, now his opponents seem to be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_ufo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Seems Mr Trump is offering a radical idea on the back of his Presidential bid. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-us_5665f75de4b072e9d1c7252b Despite indignant noises from the Liberals he appears to enjoy quite a lot of support for his idea. This is one Presidential run up that is interesting to watch, a few months ago he was a laughing stock, now his opponents seem to be worried. that guy is a cock heard (cba to provide sources) that his dad was in the KKK and they made their money from Whore houses and brothels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Linked to the mob on several occasions too. Not sure radical is how I'd describe it. The problem is huge parts of America are still so insular and quite backwards that he'll get a lot of support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 few months ago he was a laughing stock, now his opponents seem to be worried. They're not worried they're just calling him out for the fascist that he is. The main thing to worry about is that these are the kind of people voting for him [video=youtube;a0TK_vk-XDM] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'd like to see similar questions asked in a few British schools and on some of our city's streets too, just for a giggle. I have long thought voters should pass an IQ test before getting their papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I imagine we'd get a similar result here sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 One has to remember that some Arab countries will bar your entry should they find an Israeli stamp in your passport, so Trump's suggestion is not without a slightly similar precedence. He is certainly getting massive media coverage since uttering his words on this matter. I doubt it would come on to the American constitution should he ever be empowered to such a degree that he could realistically try. Nonetheless, like it or loathe it, it seems to have significant support at grass roots level in some states. Many Texans idolise him for his view on Mexican migrants. He is definitely entertaining in a that blustery American sort of way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Texans, ah yes, the noble, enlightened & friendly people of Texas. Those lovely people who put me in prison for 3 days, for taking a walk in the desert in the middle of nowhere, for which I got done for trespass. And yes, he has support at 'grass roots' level. Grass roots = rednecks. If the most powerful country in the world is run by Trump and his gun-totin' baccy-chewin' monster-truck-drivin' budweiser-drinkin' yee-hawin' redneck followers we'll soon descend into the blustery entertainment of WW3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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