hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Still keeping the Supra of course, but my family has outgrown the Astra Estate so now we are looking for a medium size SUV which will carry the kids and all our stuff. List of things required, no flexibility on these: - manual - petrol not diesel (unless it has proper decent performance) - 2.0 or bigger engine ideally with turbo - max £8k OK let's see what you all come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Sportage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Not sure if they have enough oomph.. at the moment top of the list is Mazda CX-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Porsche Cayenne twin turbo? Although if you want a maintenance & worry free car it's probably best avoided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I think Mazda diesel engines are bad news, and the Porsche will just be expensive when it goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Honda CRV? http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509177004203?body-type=suv&price-from=7500&price-to=8000&postcode=e143hr&radius=1500&transmission=manual&fuel-type=petrol&page=2&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p If you could change to using an auto and I'd highly recommend it being a family wagon of the larger size. Then I would highly recommend the Lexus RX400h. http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201509116830211?body-type=suv&price-from=7500&price-to=8000&postcode=e143hr&radius=1500&make=lexus&fuel-type=hybrid&page=1&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&logcode=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 I think Mazda diesel engines are bad news, and the Porsche will just be expensive when it goes wrong. Certainly not the porsche, budget is only 8k Mazda engine is petrol 2.3 turbo Honda is possible but just 2.0 with no turbo, doubt that is enough for such a large car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Honda is possible but just 2.0 with no turbo, doubt that is enough for such a large car I haven't driven a petrol but have driven a diesel which more than quick enough, though you have mentioned you want a petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Zafira GSI / VXR? Obviously it isn't an suv , but certainly practical and both quick and tuneable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pathfinder, I had the pickup version the d40 navara, good motor and was fairly good on performnac, although they are a 2.5tdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 I haven't driven a petrol but have driven a diesel which more than quick enough I think I'm a bit old-fashioned in thinking that diesels just aren't as quick as petrol. I'm sure to be proved wrong, but I just don't know anything about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 We have a 60 plate, 7 seat one of these. Ours is 194 Bhp and 310 lbs/ft. Not sure how the older models drive. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201505253748366?sort=pricedesc&page=2&price-to=8500&transmission=manual&model=santa_fe&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&make=hyundai&search-target=usedcars&radius=1500&postcode=wn21qj&logcode=p H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Zafira GSI / VXR? Obviously it isn't an suv , but certainly practical and both quick and tuneable. Nice try! A quick look online shows the boot seems very small, much smaller than the estate car we currently have. I'll never get our family & camping equipment etc in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Quick search found this, it might be worth a look - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MODEL-PORSCHE-CAYENNE-TURBO-4-5-V8-AUTO-TRIP-TRONIC-FULL-SPEC-/272026041970?hash=item3f5603fe72:g:JwoAAOSwAYtWK8I7 E2A Use this - https://mot-history.net to check the history of any cars you look at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I think I'm a bit old-fashioned in thinking that diesels just aren't as quick as petrol. I'm sure to be proved wrong, but I just don't know anything about them. That used to be the way before, I fondly remember an Astra diesel (think 1996) that I had which was a diesel and it was horrendously slow! With turbo charged engines it has come a long way from that. Again, if possible I would highly recommend you drive one first to be in a better position to judge what you want. Check out the Lexus if you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 The Fuhrer says I can't have a Porsche even though she knows I have always wanted one Lexus is cool but auto only I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Drive a diesel CRV, then a petrol one, not only will the diesel bury it performance wise it will do 40 plus MPG pretty much however you drive it. The petrol will easily dip sub 20 MPG. The wife inherited a CRV, and I hated the way it handled. Once it had the sheer junk tyres changed her late father had had fitted it was transformed and never missed a beat in 18 months of high mileage use, towing and general neglect. She part exchanged it and got strong money for it. Great cars, but diesel repairs can be costly if you fall unlucky. Edit: Oh, and the manual gearbox is light, fast and slick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Diesel CRV is great, much better than a lot of cars in its class... I've had one for 3/4 years now and it's never missed a beat.... I even took it on Dragonball and kept up and over took a lot of Supra's (ask kamasupra aka Dave, he wasn't impressed) lol I'm near Thame if you want to have a try... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 X5? http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503242011867?postcode=wn21qj&onesearchad=used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew&transmission=manual&price-to=8500&make=bmw&sort=default&page=16&radius=1500&body-type=suv&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 That's what I don't understand - figures for the CRV diesel say 138bhp and 10.3 secs for 0-60. How can that match a Supra? I know quoted figures can vary somewhat from real life (especially mpg) but when comparing so many cars that's all there is to go on unless I spend ages travelling around the country doing test drives. Actually Rob I might take you up on that, I'm not too far from you at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Are you going to get enough boot space with these SUV's ? The Astra estate has 500 litres and the CRV 589 according to whatcar reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Possibly; I always thought SUVs were a bit of a con in that they were just estate cars propped up on a high chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Turbo diesels (modern ones) are all about low RPM torque, they feel very rapid in the RPM band "normal" people really like to operate at driving discretely. Just try one, you'll know instantly what I mean. - - - Updated - - - Possibly; I always thought SUVs were a bit of a con in that they were just estate cars propped up on a high chassis. They are, but women have been brainwashed into thinking them safe, cool and a must have accessory to modern living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The Skoda Octavia estate has 610 litres boot space http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510268167753?sort=pricedesc&page=1&postcode=b475hj&price-to=8500&make=skoda&fuel-type=petrol&radius=1501&onesearchad=used&model=octavia&search-target=usedcars&logcode=p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 That's what I don't understand - figures for the CRV diesel say 138bhp and 10.3 secs for 0-60. How can that match a Supra? I know quoted figures can vary somewhat from real life (especially mpg) but when comparing so many cars that's all there is to go on unless I spend ages travelling around the country doing test drives. Actually Rob I might take you up on that, I'm not too far from you at all. I'll PM you As Chris says the torque on modern diesels makes a big difference... Which part of the Astra have you out grown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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