tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 was on the way back from a meet last night when about half an hour from home the engine started to drop revs, rev counter was going mad as if it was trying to find revs but couldnt, speed dropped and managed to get onto the hard shoulder then it cut out, kept cranking but wouldnt fire. eventualy fired but ran like crap for a few moments then dies. disconnected the toucan and it ran better but crap still then died. kept trying but eventually battery died on me so had to get recovered after 2 and a half hours of waiting at 3 in the morning anyone have any ideas? i thought its either fuel related or something to do with the syvecs. trying to pull the logs but its not happening as i guessing my software is out of date and the syvecs page is down... not my day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Could be fuel related thats easy to check just give the fuel pump a feed from the engine port and see if it primes , could also be the timing star come loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 As above sounds like a fuel pump failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Mitchell Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Timing star broken off? That's the first thing that came to mind as it happened to mine. Can you hear the Fuel pump energise with ignition on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Actually, does your Toucan show fuel pressure ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yeah I can hear the fuel pump when I switch on ignition. Actually the car is now going which had surprised me, I was gunna pull the plugs so took the cover off and took of one set of cool packs but quickly thought I'll turn it over first to see if it's gunna soak the plug and it just fired up. I tried earlier and it didn't want too, really confusing me, the car has been sat doing nothing for the last few months though with the occasion start. Still don't want this to happen again so I'm taking it to the garage. And dean I don't think so mate, don't have the sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Took it up the road and back and there is still a problem. Around the 3k mark is splutters and doesn't rev and higher. I'll upload a video to explain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 What afr do you get when it splutters if its rich it would indicate a spark issue if lean a fuel issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 On another note when did you last fill up ? I have had petrol from shell before filled with nito then as soon as I got out the forcourt misfire on boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 On another note when did you last fill up ? I have had petrol from shell before filled with nito then as soon as I got out the forcourt misfire on boost Filled up yesterday become I left for the meet. Did wonder if it was messed up fuel :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Happened to me and it turned out to be a wire somehow came out of the coil pack. Easy fix if it is that. Worth a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Happened to me and it turned out to be a wire somehow came out of the coil pack. Easy fix if it is that. Worth a look Hmmm yeah I spose it could be coil pack related. I've had enough of cars this weekend so it's a job for another day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Something similar happens to me was a split in the fuel hose.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Something similar happens to me was a split in the fuel hose.... I can't smell fuel, I know it runs abit rich which might not help. Think it might need to map tweaks aswell, how can I upload a video without using photo bucket? My account is being gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Upload it to you tube ? Then use the video link . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 http://vid1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/tkddave/Mobile%20Uploads/trim.1C980C28-1A19-40C3-BE59-1C972593B396_zpsdyklhw2g.mp4 Hopefully the link will work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Doesn't sound happy at all...... Have you tried checking how it's running (misfits etc) or is there nobody about to help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Aren't you NA-T mate? If you are it won't be the timing star as there isn't one there on the NA's Have you done a coil pack conversion? Or you still on the distributor? Check to see if you're getting spark from all cylinders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Doesn't sound happy at all...... Have you tried checking how it's running (misfits etc) or is there nobody about to help? Nobody around atm mate. But I'll ring up the place I use tomorrow and get it booked in! Unless you fancy coming round and helping mate - - - Updated - - - Aren't you NA-T mate? If you are it won't be the timing star as there isn't one there on the NA's Have you done a coil pack conversion? Or you still on the distributor? Check to see if you're getting spark from all cylinders? Yes mate I am indeed, I'm running coil packs yeah, oh really? Well that rules that out then! I'll pull the plugs and coils tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 if you have done the coil pack conversion , dont that mean you have the TT oil pump and timing star ? any who you would be abl;e to tell by plugging in the ecu and see what the timing is doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I would suspect lack of fuel pressure, can the Syvecs show fuel pressure in real time (ie, have you got a fuel pressure sensor fitted and wired up?). Not an Ebay fake pump is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 if you have done the coil pack conversion , dont that mean you have the TT oil pump and timing star ? any who you would be abl;e to tell by plugging in the ecu and see what the timing is doing I did try and plug it in the laptop but it confused me to hell and couldn't get it too work, it's going in next week to get looked at though! I would suspect lack of fuel pressure, can the Syvecs show fuel pressure in real time (ie, have you got a fuel pressure sensor fitted and wired up?). Not an Ebay fake pump is it? That was another thought of mine, if the engine was getting enough fuel, not an eBay pump mate no, rob mentioned it might be the timing star? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkddav3 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Tried again tonight, wouldn't start at first but got it going after I few attempts. Runs normal up to 3k 3.5k then just has a mare, I can hear the turbo spooling so don't think it's boost related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 You need to get the syvecs logs and see what that says, can't you ask LeeP to have a look remotely?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Checked all hoses, vac lines etc? Maybe one split or popped off, map sensor vac hose or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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