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Another person who realises that times have changed. Why are you expecting the same product at the end?

 

2000 a recruit dies after being beasted. The service persons involved were not charged.

2010 a soldier dies after being beasted. The service person who delivered the punishment was discharged disgracefully and rightly so. That's not just my opinion, it's the law.

The service person who gave the order was found not guilty.

You simply can not teach how it used to be taught. This means you get a very different product at the end.

Read some of the latest mentions in dispatches, look at the age of the latest service persons who have been awarded a VC or MC.

Your logic is flawed beyond belief!

Are you suggesting that all healers should be burned or drowned? Oh I forgot we call them Drs or Nurses now.

Get yourselves out of the past and accept the future.

 

I was beasted many times and didn't die.

So was the majority of the armed forces.

 

The examples you refer to died from heat exhaustion and were extreme examples.

 

Being beasted has several meanings, it's not a single definition and does not lead to death on every circumstance.

 

Who's logic is flawed?

 

Have you served with a combat unit?

Served within the armed forces?

 

And no we don't call healers doctors and nurses.

Doctors and nurses are trained by accredited and certified governing bodies.

 

Big difference from a healer.

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Al Massey,

 

You are unbelievable, I have nothing further to say to you apart from this..........

 

If you really feel the way you write and you were not just baiting the thread. The Armed Forces are better off without you. Please don't join the Reserves.

 

I have very little respect for people who've been there and done it, then when they leave boast about how great it was in their day and how crap it is now.

 

Do everyone a favour and stay a Veteran.

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Al Massey,

 

You are unbelievable, I have nothing further to say to you apart from this..........

 

If you really feel the way you write and you were not just baiting the thread. The Armed Forces are better off without you. Please don't join the Reserves.

 

I have very little respect for people who've been there and done it, then when they leave boast about how great it was in their day and how crap it is now.

 

Do everyone a favour and stay a Veteran.

 

Well that comments just going to keep this thread rolling along...

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Al Massey,

 

You are unbelievable, I have nothing further to say to you apart from this..........

 

If you really feel the way you write and you were not just baiting the thread. The Armed Forces are better off without you. Please don't join the Reserves.

 

I have very little respect for people who've been there and done it, then when they leave boast about how great it was in their day and how crap it is now.

 

Do everyone a favour and stay a Veteran.

 

I'm unbelievable?

 

You sound like a spoilt little girl.

 

Baiting the thread?

I replied to your post, which was very recent, so who is the one baiting?

 

I have no respect for whining cry babies like yourself.

Not once have I boasted how great it was.

 

You're a pathetic little keyboard warrior, who thinks she knows all.

 

I've asked you several times if you've served, but you won't reply.

I'm guessing you're either a Walt or a dreamer as you clearly have no clue about military life and service.

 

And this is me being reserved, I'm actually infuriated by little bi**hes like you.

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This is brilliant.

 

I was a doorman. Packed it in 5 years ago or so... Guaranteed, every young "squaddy" was an absolute prick.

 

"Yeah mate, come on, I'm trained to kill people for a job!" - He went down with an open palmed slap! Well 'ard.

 

"You can't throw me out, I fight for this country..." He went to hospital after a "trip" down some stairs.

 

"I don't care if I'm on Camera, I can kill someone and won't get arrested, I'm a soldier. PWRR!!" - He came and apologised about 3 weeks later. I found out his name, looked him up on Facebook, found he was friends with my cousin, who was also PWRR, along with his dad, a sergeant major in the same regiment. Apparently, he'd not slept for the best part of the 2 weeks he'd been back at camp!

 

They ALL had attitudes. They ALL had no respect. They were ALL pussies.

 

Where there's blame, there's a claim, and because they're not subjected to being broken and made into men, they all quit after 2 years, and demand compo for PTSD!

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This is brilliant.

 

I was a doorman. Packed it in 5 years ago or so... Guaranteed, every young "squaddy" was an absolute prick.

 

"Yeah mate, come on, I'm trained to kill people for a job!" - He went down with an open palmed slap! Well 'ard.

 

"You can't throw me out, I fight for this country..." He went to hospital after a "trip" down some stairs.

 

"I don't care if I'm on Camera, I can kill someone and won't get arrested, I'm a soldier. PWRR!!" - He came and apologised about 3 weeks later. I found out his name, looked him up on Facebook, found he was friends with my cousin, who was also PWRR, along with his dad, a sergeant major in the same regiment. Apparently, he'd not slept for the best part of the 2 weeks he'd been back at camp!

 

They ALL had attitudes. They ALL had no respect. They were ALL pussies.

 

Where there's blame, there's a claim, and because they're not subjected to being broken and made into men, they all quit after 2 years, and demand compo for PTSD!

 

Lol

 

This is as funny as the 3 women in the RAF winning millions in compo because they were ordered to march and it hurt them.

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Typical of you to think this is funny.

 

It's the system that's to blame here, not the individuals, although I'm not so sure in your case.

 

As for the PWRR guys, all I'll say is that you don't know what they've already been through before they decided to visit the bar. I'm sure we've all done things we are not particularly proud of. Like making people take a trip down stairs.

 

PTSD is recognised as an illness now, you don't get shot at sunrise for it, oh wait, I bet they did in your day and I bet they deserved it, yes?

 

If the government continues to stretch our armed forces without lowering its capacity it will break, some will argue it's already broken. I'm a little more current than you think Al.

 

You don't have to break anyone to turn them into men. I probably know 2 people who've been beasted and you're 1 of them. The other guy I know is also an opinionated ar*e. Maybe that's what happens after, you should make a claim.

 

Try not to get too frustrated,

 

Enjoy your Sunday

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Typical of you to think this is funny.

 

It's the system that's to blame here, not the individuals, although I'm not so sure in your case.

 

As for the PWRR guys, all I'll say is that you don't know what they've already been through before they decided to visit the bar. I'm sure we've all done things we are not particularly proud of. Like making people take a trip down stairs.

 

PTSD is recognised as an illness now, you don't get shot at sunrise for it, oh wait, I bet they did in your day and I bet they deserved it, yes?

 

If the government continues to stretch our armed forces without lowering its capacity it will break, some will argue it's already broken. I'm a little more current than you think Al.

 

You don't have to break anyone to turn them into men. I probably know 2 people who've been beasted and you're 1 of them. The other guy I know is also an opinionated ar*e. Maybe that's what happens after, you should make a claim.

 

Try not to get too frustrated,

 

Enjoy your Sunday

 

Yeah I think it's funny, how a few women can claim damages and sue the MOD for marching, and it's worse that they got paid.

I've seen many strange claims in the past.

 

Is that the culture we are in now?

Get hurt claim money.

 

Maybe the system is partially to blame for allowing it to continue, but the people claiming are also to blame and you can not deny that.

Granted, for serious injuries, deaths, negligence etc then yes make a claim.

 

I know all about PTSD, suffered it badly for several years after I was shot and medivac'd from Iraq.

And PTSD is not an excuse for everything.

 

And I'm not that old and only came out 2 years ago.

So pretty much as current as you can be.

 

I agree that the armed forces is severely stretched at the moment, and will take a long time until it's back up to scratch again.

 

 

You only know 2 people who have been beasted?

Are a cadet?

 

Think we need to work out what you define as a beasting.

 

Oh and you haven't been beasted but are also an opinionated ar*e that talks sh*t so beasting obviously doesn't come in to it.

And if you'd like proof of that, read back on this post.

 

No one agrees with you.

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Well the PWRR boy, yes, boy, not man, hadn't even made it through the door of my venue, so hadn't reached the bar! I refused him because I could tell he wasn't going to be welcome in the venue. And after speaking to my cousin, his sergeant major, he'd not even been deployed anywhere yet!

 

And I'm very proud of all of the knobheads that I've given an attitude adjustment to - Because nobody else has ever bothered.

 

You strike me as one of the people that would question a doormans decision to eject you from the premises too. Maybe that's due to being treated like a little girl at Army Cadets and thinking you have a choice in certain situations.

 

And if you are serving in the army, I do hope your battlefield skills are better than those of your keyboard warrior skills, because mummy won't be there to pat you on the back like she is when you go running to her, crying, because Al's just handed your arse to you.

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Benjy,

I'm quite sure that most of the ejections you've made have been for a good reason. I wasn't questioning your reasoning and I'm not sure why you felt the need to comment on that. Maybe it was a little self justification?

The point I was trying to make was that there's usually a reason for someone's behaviour.

Although I can not count for Al.

P.S.

Als been nowhere near my arse.

What part of this thread makes you think I'm an idiot? After all it wasn't me who confessed to throwing someone downstairs.

Hmmm,

Who was that again??

Now if you'll both please excuse me my type writer requires some attention.

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He merely lost his balance whilst refusing to leave the premises. I like to call it a happy coincidence. I don't need to justify my actions to anyone. Being a paid professional within a certain industry, my opinion is all I care about.

 

My point being, you're what we would call a "Hoorah Henry". You think you know better than everybody else, but realistically you're no better than anybody. My guess is, you wander about with an over inflated sense of self importance, and are pro political correctness and happy for this country to turn into a nanny state. A "ooooh we can't send that murder to prison - He has human rights..." type of person.

 

Al, he's gone to write his war novel. Move over Andy McNab! There's a pink and fluffy book coming out where they teach you to fight for yours and your units lift using fairy dust and pom poms!

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Its the internet and isn't to be taken literally theirs some threads that its just banter and not bullying and then there are some where it looks to be bullying but most of the time is because the OP thread has been covered a million times or just doesn't make logical sense.

Personally I don't say anything I wouldn't say to someones face.

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Benjy,

You don't know me at all, so please refrain from imagining what I'm like.

On the contrary to your spider senses I'm not as woolly or girly as you may think (or would like me to be), sorry to disappoint you.

My point was; and still is,,,,,,,,

Al Massey and other people like him who think it's ok to bully or beast people in this day and age are badly mistaken.

Times have changed, people's rights have changed and if Al doesn't believe the law applies to him he may end up in bother sooner or later.

I love this country and really don't want to see it in ruin, and as for prison, anyone who's in there is probably in for a reason, I have no issues with the justice system.

So, you really know jack shi*e about me, you couldn't actually be any further off the mark.

I never asked you to justify yourself to me, nor would I.

Your happy coincidence reads much better than its original post.

I'll be back later for a catch up.

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