Fitz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Am I allowed to change the headunit? I dont like the Toyota one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markolambo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 No apparently they turn a russet brown colour in the northern hemisphere and as such are disowned by the japanese decendents as unworthy and ownders can only drive at night due to the shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markolambo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Does a hks exhaust turn my uk stock model jap spec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 You are still struggling to work it out. That variant would be a modified J Spec and would fit in the 'modified Supra' class. It wouldn't be original spec as it left the factory. Neither is a modified UK spec, that isn't original spec as it left the factory. Its the word spec that has lost its meaning amongst owners. A spec cannot be changed, its fixed. It's a term used to define what market the car came from and has literally been used for decades, if you want to start ripping into the 'spec' part, then how far do you go? 'Original tires gone? Oh sorry, not UK spec any more', 'Oh is that not the OE spec oil and fuel filters? Sorry, this car is a mongrel of the highest standard', 'Holy Jesus, this apparent UK spec car has been waxoyl'd!'. For somebody who has had a Supra for as long as you, how do you not know the standard terminoligy that even the newest of newbies understand. Next you'll be complaing BPU isn't basic enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Next you'll be complaing BPU isn't basic enough. And NA's aren't Normal enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) UK Spec were sold with different options aimed at the uk market. and they never sold a Aerotop UK spec car. The UK spec standard twin turbo set up were made of steel and the J-Spec mad of ceramic Uk specs were sold through official UK dealers A Supra is a Supra and regardless of UK spec or j-spec the value will always be reflected on the quality of craftsmanship that has gone into the car, the rarity of the car (UK cars are rarer in a good condition) (manual cars are more expensive in what ever form they are). This thread is covered in the what to look for PDFs on the homepage BTW Spec is shortened term for specification Google searched revealed this meaning for specification "a detailed description of the design and materials used to make something" Edited September 22, 2015 by Hitbox Junkie (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 For somebody who has had a Supra for as long as you, how do you not know the standard terminoligy that even the newest of newbies understand. I do of course know the terminology, I'm just saying its wrong terminology which didn't matter until Supra values went on the rise. Now its just plain wrong terminology that will have a growing impact on value so maybe people should take note of that and start referring to their cars as 'originally J spec' or 'originally UK spec' because as I wrote, you can arrive at any modified Supra from any starting specification platform fairly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Think you're getting confused with OEM. You can have an OEM J/UK spec or a modified one. Its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I can't believe this has an actual discussion going on, it's almost as bad as the 8 days in a week thread. Eating Chinese food doesn't make me Chinese and a cat wearing pyjamas doesn't make it people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripped_fear Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I can't believe this has an actual discussion going on, it's almost as bad as the 8 days in a week thread. Eating Chinese food doesn't make me Chinese and a cat wearing pyjamas doesn't make it people. That was a good thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markolambo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 What about roobarb and custurd i thought custurd sometimes wore pyjamsas and talked making him no different from the students i see in tesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Think you're getting confused with OEM. You can have an OEM J/UK spec or a modified one. Its as simple as that. That ^ End of. The rest is all semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I do of course know the terminology, I'm just saying its wrong terminology which didn't matter until Supra values went on the rise. Now its just plain wrong terminology that will have a growing impact on value so maybe people should take note of that and start referring to their cars as 'originally J spec' or 'originally UK spec' because as I wrote, you can arrive at any modified Supra from any starting specification platform fairly easily. I can't tell if you're trolling. If I modify my UK Spec, it's still a UK Spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 This serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus GTE Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 This thread itself is turning into the cats pyjamas. If I view a UK spec that is bpu, it doesn't stop being a uk spec; as any reasonable person would conclude that the things that make the car uk spec are still present unless swapped or uprated. Also, there are lots more diferences to a uk spec that have been mentioned here; the drive shaft for example is stronger and the auto box and diff to name a few more. Thanks for your concern for the buyers in the market, but I don't think anyone else seems to be confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemanhead Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 If you actually drive your car properly rider, you will wear out a few parts, and when you go to buy new and discover that Toyota don't make said parts anymore, yours will have to be an aftermarket parts mongrel too! Wrong spec and worth nothing like the rest of ours apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 It don`t bother me what mine is, mongrel etc, i`ve made it perform way better than when it rolled off the production line in 1993, also i don`t care about the value, all i know is that damn i`m having fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 [ That's the point I'm trying to get across. All Supras were exported from Japan. All Supras came out of the same factory. The only difference was the market specific specification and the UK specification is judged favourably with a price premium. Surely, if you change the specification away from stock the car is no longer market specification specific and the further you move away from stock the more 'generic' the vehicle becomes. There is essentially no difference to a modified Supra running the roads in Japan or the UK as the modifications can be easily achieved from any original market specific platform. It appears the UK premium for a modified car must lie solely in the VIN number though I can't find any reference to UK registered vehicle's being allocated unique numbers or a closed sequence of VIN numbers. I assume they must have otherwise it'd be very difficult to prove a vehicle was UK first registered beyond the information recorded on the vehicles V5 and that isn't a document that you could rely upon to carry totally accurate information. So, it is looking like it comes down to how much is a VIN stamp worth and how easily a VIN can be identified to a specific market specification product? I think you'll find a late Jspec has more premium than a UK Spec. An as others have said, it is pretty basis. Think you are over complicating a simple matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 My god its taken three pages to discuss if a UK or J spec car is still that car after modifying.....and I guess the answer is that only a real purist would actually care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 All Uk specs are Pre-Facelift Steel Turbo's 550 injectors EGR system Bigger brakes Glass Headlights Big Rear Diff With Cooler Bonnet Scoop Outside Temperature built into the digital Clock Headlight Washers Heated Seats Etc Etc cant think of anything else different at the minute Im sure that its been hinted at that the cam profiles are slightly different can anybody add to the list^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listy Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Right, I'll sum this up simply and quickly as there is no need to have a second thread on the matter. A UK Spec is and forever will be a UK Spec because that is what it is. A J Spec is and forever will be a J Spec because that is what it is. An EU Spec is and forever will be a EU Spec because that is what it is. A US Spec is and forever will be a US Spec because that is what it is. Different markets had different rules therefore the cars had different parts added/removed/swapped/upgraged to suit said markets. Anything else? If so, reread the thread, it's all in here. Oh and Matt - Cream interior Edited September 25, 2015 by listy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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