TRD3000GT Posted March 31, 2003 Share Posted March 31, 2003 Oh S**IT Seems we all managed to get throught some clutch on Saturday night, Raoul , Ash and now ME!! Going home after work the revs went off the hook when the second turbo kicked in, in 3rd gear! Should have seen the smile go Oh well Im so broke because of my car I might as well keep on spending! Seems I now need a clutch, and I intend on getting a good one. Anyone have any ideas on a good clutch and where a good place to have it installed would be? Considering a flywheel as well. Is there one that sorts out the noise that makes my car sound like a bag of nails when I turn it off! and is a bit more resiliant than the stock unit??? HELP!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zac grant Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Talk to Paul from http://www.whifbitz.co.uk about the rps clutch. I'm very happy with mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted April 1, 2003 Author Share Posted April 1, 2003 Any ideas which is the best clutch flywheel kit? or just a good clutch !! And pricing please? Im not sure how much this stuff costs in the UK!! Also does anyone know someone who can fit it in a relatively competent way!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Chris do a search as we went through this at length a few weeks back. I will discuss what's best with you later when I pop over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Terry, have you spoke to Leon at all as I did tell him to talk to you as you were aware of my worries, he's recommended the full Kevlear clutch, with lightened sprung flwheel, but its not cheap.... How do you think I'll get on with this........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 No need for anything other than the stock flywheel unless you're running silly power IMO. The rattling on engine switch off is a sign that the flywheel is indeed worn. If you want cheap but better than stock, speak to Chris Wilson who does modified stock based clutches that will hold more power and will be fine for BPU cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted April 1, 2003 Author Share Posted April 1, 2003 Any ideas what I would be charged for another stock flywheel and stock clutch or Chrises modified stock clutch and fitting? I need a ball park figure? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Ballpark I think about £800 for one of CW's clutches, stock flywheel, and fitting (it's quite a big job). That won't be far off I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Terry, have you spoke to Leon at all as I did tell him to talk to you as you were aware of my worries, he's recommended the full Kevlear clutch, with lightened sprung flwheel, but its not cheap.... How do you think I'll get on with this........... Yeah you are all sorted Ash:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Thorin No need for anything other than the stock flywheel unless you're running silly power IMO. The rattling on engine switch off is a sign that the flywheel is indeed worn. Not so sure about that. There is no *need* at any power level but they do make the car rev much quicker & therefore get into the power range sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Terry S Not so sure about that. There is no *need* at any power level but they do make the car rev much quicker & therefore get into the power range sooner. Terry, you beat me to it. Thorin, running a lightened flywheel is not just for big power Supes, I have spoken at great length abouth this with Leon, as there is no point me spending £600 on a full kevlear clutch and lightened flywheel if stock is perfectly suitable. And seeing as my stock clutch has burnt out due to my doughnutting (dont actually do it that often by the way..) and some quick starts at lights, whats to say that another stock clutch is going to hold out any longer, theres not a lot of point in spending £180 for a stock clutch + labour, and then in 5 months time have to buy another, and maybe new fly wheel again, Im already half way to a full kevlear, plus I know if I go bigger power in the future, I then havent got to worry about upratting my clutch. And a lightened flywheel is always good, and have asked Leon if you would notice the difference, just by driving, his answer was yes, even when your stationary and you give the pedal a flick, say the rev counter would normally rise to 3000rpm, do the same with a lightened flywheel and it would probably reach around 5000rpm, that was his words. But you do want to make sure that it is sprung, even though Leon has said he's never known anyone to shag their gearbox running a no n sprung flywheel, after all they are supposedly bullet proof gear boxes........... This was for your benifit as well Chris...........didnt want it to seem that this was just directed at Thorin. And if one of Chris's clutches and stock flywheel is £800, then I know I would deffo rather spend £600 on a full kevlear and sprung lightened flywheel, and Leon charges £200 to drop the gearbox, put back and fluids, thats the same as Chris's then, although there is the freight duty or whatever it is, thats around another £150. But good luck anyway mate, I had a nightmare....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis And if one of Chris's clutches and stock flywheel is £800, then I know I would deffo rather spend £600 on a full kevlear and sprung lightened flywheel, Who makes these sprung lightened flywheels ? I didn't think that such an item existed, at least not for the MKIV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Not sure of the exact make Martin but Leon has one arriving from the states, best ask him or Terry............. Infact it shoudl arrive today........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 It's not a sprung flywheel it's a sprung disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Ah makes sense. Wonder if anybody ever will attempt to make a lightened sprung flywheel for the MKIV. Would be damn expensive i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 And the difference is, I know that where your center disc warped Terry, this has a sprung center, am I correct....?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Don't know. If Toyota can't make a FW with a damper that doesn't go bad after time, I really wouldn't trust most other vendors would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Good Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis And the difference is, I know that where your center disc warped Terry, this has a sprung center, am I correct....?? No the steel centre on my LW flywheel warped because the RPS clutch got too hot. You are getting a clutch disc with a sprung centre. Completely different component. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Not being funny mate, but thats the way Leon told it to me. He said where you had to get you center piece re-done or whatever the hell it was, he said that this a a sprung center so therefore wouldnt be so harsh against the gear box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Not being funny mate, but thats the way Leon told it to me. He said where you had to get you center piece re-done or whatever the hell it was, he said that this a a sprung center so therefore wouldnt be so harsh against the gear box. Leon's statement is 100% correct, but I think you have it a little mixed up. The LW flywheel uses a steel centre for the clutch disc to mate to. It was the centre of the FW that warped, nothing to do with the clutch disc. You are receiving a sprung clutch disc which reduces the shock to the gearbox. You are getting 3 seperate components, FW, Clutch disc (sprung) & Pressure plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Ohh Jeees mate, here we go again. So does a sprung clutch plate help a little with a non sprung flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Ohh Jeees mate, here we go again. So does a sprung clutch plate help a little with a non sprung flywheel Exactly that Ash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 So I think I get it, Gearbox > clutch disc (sprung) > flywheel Is this layout correct as I understand how they fit together. In a stock setup is it Gearbox > clutch disc (sprung) > flywheel (also sprung) So the spung clutch plate inbetween the flywheel and the gear box helps longevity for the gearbox, but not as much as if there was the full dampining of a sprung flywheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Ash - Try this http://auto.howstuffworks.com/clutch.htm Hopefully may help a little. The OEM system has a sprung flywheel and solid clutch disc. One of the components needs to be sprung to save your gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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