mwilkinson Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Only ever owned manual Supras. Both V160 boxes. One BPU and the current one a single turbo. I find low speed gearing a pain. Slow moving traffic is a pain. But for interactive spirited driving the manual is a winner. I have driven my friends UK auto TT and I really enjoyed it. It pulled hard on kick down and was definately a better daily driver. I always go for manual because they are more desirable and have a better resale value and can handle higher power (so one less thing to worry about when modding the car). If neither of these are an issue for you then an auto is a more than adequate car. I don't think you would be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Granted some are worse than others but heavy clutched is nothing to do with the gearbox that's people fitting cheap clutches . The manual it has been proven to take over 1000hp again and again so a little noise and clunk is not bad considering a auto will crap it's self at around 550-600 . I went auto bpu to manual and it was the best thing ever auto sucks up more power ,sounds naff from the outside as it's a slow changing box not like modern auto's and I just had better control of the car overall. I feel I must refrain from answering the last comments other than to say - ask anyone who has been in my car or followed it - it by no means changes gear slowly or sounds naff lol;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheRedViper Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Every Friday evening I'll be driving 2 hours in rush hour up the m6 which turns into nearly 4 hours, so the auto might be a better option. I think if I find a clean car within my budget I'll consider it either way. Edited September 2, 2015 by TheRedViper (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 That is very wise As I said before, a very nice auto will be a much nicer car to own than a poor manual. With your budget, you should be able to get a nice manual though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 There are two reasons to buy a manual: 1. You like to get the back end out going round roundabouts late at night b. You're worried what other people will say if you buy an auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I used to drift my auto 200sx more than any manual car I've owned. It is much easier to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I used to drift my auto 200sx more than any manual car I've owned. It is much easier to do. Still can't do it in my BMW, I can get the tail out but any sort of acceleration during it usually involves a gear change as I can't get it to hold a gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 There are two reasons to buy a manual: 1. You like to get the back end out going round roundabouts late at night 2. You're worried what other people will say if you buy an auto Number 1 is a lie, I can get the rear out on my Auto, with an open diff !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cered Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I have a tiptronic... Best of both The auto box is an absolute joy though, in town, traffic and on motorways is perfect. Only limitation I feel it has is it's "off the line" speed is very poor without being able to bring up the revs before setting off. But you can get around this by fitting a high stall didgeridoo or whatever it is and some other bits (haven't really looked into it). I originally wanted a manual, but I don't "want" a manual over my tippy' as I'm perfectly happy with it... That adn you may see modern performance cars, super cars etc are all going the way of autoboxes or tiptronic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The tiptronic is a different beast to the regular autos though, the gear changes feel quite a bit quicker, and the tiptronic system is far more responsive than the clunky lever on the regular auto. VVTi must help too. Mine doesn't feel sluggish off the line, and any disadvantage to a manual can be offset by powerbraking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneW Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'll test for my first time ever a Tiptronic 2JZ-GTE Motor (Ok it's an aristo, but well that's quite the same), I'll leave on here my feedback tomorrow EDIT : Like a lot of people I'm a manual guy x) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_k83 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I had only ever owned manuals. I originally wanted a manual Supra when looking to buy, but with my budget being pretty low and missing out on a 5 speed NA i just settled for the Auto. To be honest, i think they are pretty underated, i was massively impressed and can still move when she has too! Manu Mode is different but still keeps it fun on track. However, my current plans for the car mean i now want a manual conversion. I have spent and done too much for me to sell up and buy a complete manual only to do it all over again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy.r Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I feel I must refrain from answering the last comments other than to say - ask anyone who has been in my car or followed it - it by no means changes gear slowly or sounds naff lol;) I will echo this!!!Ile the sound of Johns screamer pipe still echoing in my head from the run up to the summer bbq meet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy.r Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Number 1 is a lie, I can get the rear out on my Auto, with an open diff !! And that's another vote for open diff auto drifting here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbiemercman Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I have four cars, a big merc, e-300 td, this has to be auto with kick down,long journeys in heavy traffic, a Corsa sport. 1.4 auto, wife's car and a Hyundai sports coupe auto, My Supra Mk4 is manual with a limited slip disff axle, this means you can spin the wheels and power out of bends etc and you are controlling the power delivery, not a hydro auoto usa market box. My friends always frown on LHD sports cars and auto's, they call them hair dressers cars. Not saying i agree and if you prefer the auto sports cars then it's ok. To me the actual "driving" of a sports car is a big part of the joy of owning one, let's face it most of us have them as a weekend toy and the hardcore driving is king, you are not just getting from a to b in heavy traffic where i agree the autos are king. At the TT races at the Isle of Man which i have been involved with, the electric bikes are being introduced from the USA, they have no gear changes, no exhaust noise, and when they are racing we all go to the pub. I have watched the NA/T's on youtube and the exhaust sound on a manual with gear changes at the right rpm are awesome, the autos just cannot do it for me. It's every one to their own, you pay your money and you take your choice. My brother bought his tt auto new and i bought my na at the same time from new, when i get my NA/T conversion from the doctor, my brother, for the first time in 18 years, will be blown off. lol. Edited September 2, 2015 by herbiemercman (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My TT auto is the first auto car i have owned, the box is brilliant compared to other autos But im still doing a manual conversion starting this weekend, purely because i just prefer a manual car deep down, regardless of how good the auto box is, its not a manual and ultimately if youre a manual lover you will crave manual once the novelty wears off Maybe once my manual is in ill crave my auto box back who knows And to add to previous comments, auto or manual makes no difference to getting the back end out, if you cant kick the back end out on an auto then you cant drive especially when you have manu mode lol If your planning to be a drift champion them maybe a manual will be needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markolambo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 There are two reasons to buy a manual: 1. You like to get the back end out going round roundabouts late at night b. You're worried what other people will say if you buy an auto Only if your still at school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Granted some are worse than others but heavy clutched is nothing to do with the gearbox that's people fitting cheap clutches . The manual it has been proven to take over 1000hp again and again so a little noise and clunk is not bad considering a auto will crap it's self at around 550-600 . I went auto bpu to manual and it was the best thing ever auto sucks up more power ,sounds naff from the outside as it's a slow changing box not like modern auto's and I just had better control of the car overall. The cars I have driven, from NA6 to 6 speed single have all had a heavy clutch when compared to "normal" daily drivers, and there's no way on earth I'd have wanted to do DB last year in a 6 speed. My NA6 had a stock clutch at 60k miles in it, and I'd rather have removed and eaten my own liver than done rush hour in Brussels in that! My sister has a 350bhp Impreza with a performance clutch in it, and it's no heavier than my transit. I feel I must refrain from answering the last comments other than to say - ask anyone who has been in my car or followed it - it by no means changes gear slowly or sounds naff lol;) The noise yours makes is obscene Mr B! And the gear changes are EPIC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bailey Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Got to love auto kickdown, even on low boost! https://vimeo.com/138112049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Got to love auto kickdown, even on low boost! https://vimeo.com/138112049 Love a bit of kick down. Especially when turbo #2 kicks in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy.r Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I have four cars, a big merc, e-300 td, this has to be auto with kick down,long journeys in heavy traffic, a Corsa sport. 1.4 auto, wife's car and a Hyundai sports coupe auto, My Supra Mk4 is manual with a limited slip disff axle, this means you can spin the wheels and power out of bends etc and you are controlling the power delivery, not a hydro auoto usa market box. My friends always frown on LHD sports cars and auto's, they call them hair dressers cars. Not saying i agree and if you prefer the auto sports cars then it's ok. To me the actual "driving" of a sports car is a big part of the joy of owning one, let's face it most of us have them as a weekend toy and the hardcore driving is king, you are not just getting from a to b in heavy traffic where i agree the autos are king. At the TT races at the Isle of Man which i have been involved with, the electric bikes are being introduced from the USA, they have no gear changes, no exhaust noise, and when they are racing we all go to the pub. I have watched the NA/T's on youtube and the exhaust sound on a manual with gear changes at the right rpm are awesome, the autos just cannot do it for me. It's every one to their own, you pay your money and you take your choice. My brother bought his tt auto new and i bought my na at the same time from new, when i get my NA/T conversion from the doctor, my brother, for the first time in 18 years, will be blown off. lol. You'll be surprised... Especially if your brother has a full bpu TT auto, I've shown a clean pair of heels to many a car who thought an auto supra was no good or match. It's all about Manu mode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazuk Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I feel I must refrain from answering the last comments other than to say - ask anyone who has been in my car or followed it - it by no means changes gear slowly or sounds naff lol;) No need to take it personally I don't need to ask anyone that has been in your car as I have been in enough auto singles to know. But I will still say it is a slow changing box after all it is 20 year old technology! Put it this way a VW Golf with a dsg box does changes in 0.2seconds on top of that no torque loss to the drivetrain during the shift . I don't disagree that BPU kick down is savage but in a single it's just a ditch finder or in your case a barrier finder Edited September 2, 2015 by chazuk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackyBoi Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 There are two reasons to buy a manual: 1. You like to get the back end out going round roundabouts late at night b. You're worried what other people will say if you buy an auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 No need to take it personally I don't need to ask anyone that has been in your car as I have been in enough auto singles to know. But I will still say it is a slow changing box after all it is 20 year old technology! Put it this way a VW Golf with a dsg box does changes in 0.2seconds on top of that no torque loss to the drivetrain during the shift . I don't disagree that BPU kick down is savage but in a single it's just a ditch finder or in your case a barrier finder Oh no you didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Supes Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The only thing I can CATAGORICALLY say on this matter is... it never fails to stimulate conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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