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Chris Wilson

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And it is yet another fault with the EU. They thought that they could just throw together countries with different cultures and backgrounds, and it would all be fine. But as we are seeing now, the Eastern European nations have a very different view of migrants to us (which, of course, they are perfectly entitled to). And then we judge them with our western morals and ethics, and wonder why they aren't more likeus.

 

As with the disaster in the Ukraine, the EU has made the situation MUCH worse.

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Why do we have a duty to fellow human being, surly evolution has taught us that the strong survive and weak die. It's the rules Mother Nature follows and it's worked for billions of years. Why just because we have the ability to think do we think we know best. We can not support everyone it's a fact, if we keep letting people in we will become the minority in our own country. Would you let someone into your house and while abuse it and reck you work and feed them it's the same principal

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War? Who wants to guess when? Cameron is weak, the US leadership is risibly weak, the West's economy is weak. History shows this situation is the forerunner to a good big war (the unprecedented level of economic migration puts an unknown, and definitely worrying mix into the equation). Will the war be on a civil level? European? Global? Whatever, I think it's coming...The European economy is laughable, the Schengen open borders political experiment is being replaced by razor fences, soon to be bolstered by the military, the "desperate, pitiful, so called refugees" are all but rioting in Hungary, and Calais, but that bold country is at least making a lone stance. The Liberal left are saying poor people, despite most looking far from bomb struck, and more like a load of well dressed chancers. How many Notting Hill nouveau riche residents REALLY want more muggings and plastic beggars, despite their posturing in the media? Regent Street is already like a Roma satellite camp. Bring on the benevolent (to the true UK working, and supporting population) dictator, we are becoming more tribal by the day. As for the poor residents of some of the Italian islands, one can only pity how their once peaceful lives have been changed by these uncontrolled influxes. I honestly feel seriously fearful for parents of young kids in this country, their future is very bleak. As for IS, Russian muscle flexing, and the Chinese economical palpations....

 

All well and good the do gooders saying we should take in more so called refugees, rural doctors are under genuine stress, schools are dropping standards and increasing class sizes year on year, while the languages of their pupilds become more and more foreign, holding back the indigenous children, and the CBI tells us the standard of school leavers is getting to the level where they are either unemployable or plain unwilling to work.

 

Nature will sort it, the period whilst it does so will testing.

 

Time for my cocoa.

 

Well put as usual

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Oh God, the little boy in the red shirt! People will be claiming they need counselling after seeing it next. It was pure emotional propaganda by sections of the press, I am more concerned about English kids, the ones so many uninsured, un-licenced immigrants manage tor run down each year. Or the family's of kids murdered by immigrant nutters, let out on bail, or released after earlier heinous crimes. Many of these criminals had records that our open border, or borderless mess allowed in un-vetted. Many will doubtless be amongst the yelling mob now boarding trains in Hungary to head who knows where, totally unfettered and unchecked. There are "kids in red shirts" meeting sad fates every hour, all over the world, including here. Get a grip...Emotional blackmail by kids in red shirts should not be controlling national security, or making inroads into how a government protects its indigenous population. We used to have Statesmen who realised that.

 

Yep

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Something I saw earlier that I thought was relevant.

 

"England’s population density is 413 people per square kilometre (413 ppl/km2). Then I’ve worked out how many refugees the main European countries could take for them to reach the same population density as Europe’s most densely populated country – England. This shows that to reach the same population density as England (413 ppl/km2), Germany could take 67 million migrants, France could accommodate a whopping 160 million and Spain and even larger 161 million."

 

"In all, just the thirteen European countries could accommodate more than 680 million migrants before reaching the same population density as England."

 

http://www.snouts-in-the-trough.com/

 

 

And people say we aren't doing our share?

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People all over have been saying today that they would welcome a refugee into their home. It was on the BBC, and the Guardian. I wonder how many will now that they have the opportunity?

 

I would happily, no children should ever face ordeals like that.

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I would have no issue with us taking in 10,000 Syrian orphans (if we could find homes for them). But the majority of these refugees aren't children, or even people with children accompanying them.

 

Not the majority perhaps but a large chuck are, that is the people I am concerned about. The men are strong enough to work for themselves and take on hardship, I am sure we all have in many ways, perhaps not to the levels of some of these migrants\refugees but generally as men we are designed to take on the brunt. It is the children that concern me, an I don't think I would have felt this strong about it prior to my daughter.

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I was talking about those who specifically said they would take refugees in to their homes. I am obviously aware that plenty of people spend their free time volunteering for good causes. Notably our very own Abz :)

 

I bet not even one of those people actually takes a refugee in.

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I was talking about those who specifically said they would take refugees in to their homes. I am obviously aware that plenty of people spend their free time volunteering for good causes. Notably our very own Abz :)

 

I bet not even one of those people actually takes a refugee in.

 

I do try sometimes :)

 

An yes you are right, but it is the same for a lot of things. People at face value will say a lot of things but then will not commit to them.

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