dannyspeed Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Anyone know of a Emission friendly MOT garage. I'm based in Deal near Dover but don't mind traveling a bit. Probably best to PM any info. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Bump! Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why? If the car is tested correctly it does not need to have a CAT test, as it's before 2000's if it's Aerotop it should be? It should pass unless there is something really wrong, you don't need the cats in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Why? If the car is tested correctly it does not need to have a CAT test, as it's before 2000's if it's Aerotop it should be? It should pass unless there is something really wrong, you don't need the cats in. Are you sure? It seems to be a grey area. Some say the regs changed at K reg 92-93. But I have heard before that it's different for Jap imports but never confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just Been speaking to a few very local MOT stations and they are saying built from 1992 onwards the car will need a cat test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just Been speaking to a few very local MOT stations and they are saying built from 1992 onwards the car will need a cat test. Only if the car exact match of emissions data can be found on the database, which the supra cannot. There is a flowchart flying around the forum somewhere which shows the rules in black and white, the supra does not need a cat test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Cool I think I found some info on that. I'm going down the MOT station now to see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martincoupe Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 if you still have trouble then pop over to canterbury and im sure we can help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Right after finding out some info i found here http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?314369-New-MOT-rules and going with what Benjy Said in that Thread . I took a printout to my local MOT test station. After a bit of a discussion which he was adamant at the start that all cars after 1992 need a cat test. He came round to the fact that it could possibly go through as long as his system gives him the option where he can't find an "Exact match" due to it being an import. He said he won't know for sure until the car is with him and all the details are put in his system. Its booked in on Thursday 4pm so we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 if you still have trouble then pop over to canterbury and im sure we can help you out Cheers. If it don't go through on Thursday at my local place I'll be in touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Right just back from the MOT garage and it failed on emissions!!! After all the explaining and proof I showed him that the Jap spec is different from the uk spec. He's reply was that he found an engine code match on the system and that's what he has to put it through as!! He said the system gets updated and what was the case might not be the case anymore. So pissed as I feel he never listened to what I was explaining to him... I think it boils down to this.... If your de-cat'd take it to an MOT station that has good knowledge of Supras or are just dead friendly [emoji12]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Im down in canter and know some friendly mot guys, pm me if you want details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 What year is your car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 What year is your car? 1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 He can find whatever engine code he likes - The Toyota Supra came with a 2JZ-GTE and that is it as far as DVSA are concerned. Go back and ask him for an appeal form. The computer will ask if it was registered on or after 01/09/1992. Then it will ask if it's a passenger car - Obviously yes. Then it will perform a BET (Basic Emissions Test). CO limit - 0.30% HC limit - 200ppm Lambda - 0.97 - 1.03 It'll fail, then ask for the vehicle make, model and engine code. There is no 2JZ-GE listed under Toyota Supra. You then have to select "Vehicle Information not found". It'll then ask if it was first used on or after 31/08/1995 - no, it wasn't, so it carries out a pre cat test. CO limit - 3.0% HC limit - 1200ppm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 He can find whatever engine code he likes - The Toyota Supra came with a 2JZ-GTE and that is it as far as DVSA are concerned. Go back and ask him for an appeal form. The computer will ask if it was registered on or after 01/09/1992. Then it will ask if it's a passenger car - Obviously yes. Then it will perform a BET (Basic Emissions Test). CO limit - 0.30% HC limit - 200ppm Lambda - 0.97 - 1.03 It'll fail, then ask for the vehicle make, model and engine code. There is no 2JZ-GE listed under Toyota Supra. You then have to select "Vehicle Information not found". It'll then ask if it was first used on or after 31/08/1995 - no, it wasn't, so it carries out a pre cat test. CO limit - 3.0% HC limit - 1200ppm. The car was registered 01/06/1997 in the uk which he pointed out to me in the log book. Does it go by that or by year made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Is he really that dumb? If he didn't have the log book, all he'd have would be the chassis plate. Tell him to stop being a div and do his job properly. Gives us all a bad name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Must be! I explained all this to him before I even took the car to him. This is what's on the gas analyser print out. Vin number doesn't match either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Seriously, go and ask him for an appeals form. DVSA will then test your car. If it passes, he'll get points on his MOT licence. In the same token, if he's missed anything, he'll also get points. He's clearly put it through as a TT! Also, there's no reason for him to bypass the engine speed and oil temperature measurements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 It is a TT Jap spec. But it should still not need a cat test from what you mentioned in previous posts. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 He can find a match for the engine code, BUT you can prove that it's tuned differently to the UK spec - i.e. Different injectors, ECU, EGR, turbo's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Exactly what I said to him, I even printed out a Wikipedia supra page noting the differences but he could see past the engine code. I'll go back and appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Pop to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to write a letter confirming that it's not the same as the UK model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyspeed Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Good shout. Thanks for the info I'll let you know how I get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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