Chris Wilson Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'll leave you with a little question to ponder. What, apart from tyre issues and looking ridiculous, should you worry about if you add extreme rear camber by lengthening the bottom arms? I am talking mechanical drive train issues. How could you get around one of these issues? It's not a trick question, I just want you to think beyond "STANCE" and perhaps save your, or A. N. Others neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 There's always a way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandal Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The guys that run these cambers don't actually drive the car do they? Thought they just stand beside them at coffee shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 There's always a way Means you don't understand the question. Chris you'd be as well taking your vastly experienced head and smashing it against your wall rather than trying to understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 We can't all be the same can we, it would be a boring world if we was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Welsh-Stealth- Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Oh wow...things have really gone wrong since I've been away. Who and why would you do this to a supra?! Have the supras really depreciated that much that kfc car park loitering Lupo drivers can now afford them?! I'm now in an R34 but at that point where even this is struggling to quench the 2jz thirst. The mkiv was and is one of the best handling cars I have ever driven... Yeah I spent the money on coilovers, strut braces, superpro bushers(which some may not agree with), corner weighting, geo align's, etc, etc... The list goes on... But even before all that the car could and would handle because it was developed and designed to! Tracking the car I can understand, drifting a supra I can come to terms with.... But ruining the handling and destroying an iconic classic super car to make it look like a hot wheels/maxpower/lupo mix match!? Other than street cred for aesthetic reasons at the bus stop or McDonald's, seriously what is the point? You will find ditches/hedges better? The tyres will wear abnormally and cause a great amount of pain when stopped by an officer of the law. Costing you a small fortune in tyres, Points, fines etc. And handling is something that will go from brilliant super car to navigating an ice rink on stilts... Looking for exceptance for destroying such an iconic car on a forum full of people who love an idolize this perfection of Japanese engineering, probably isn't going to happen. These gentlemen have a good understanding of these vehicles. And Chris Wilson's advise really shouldn't be overlooked, this man has a great knowledge of vehicles and doesn't just give out technical advise for his own benefit. I hope you carry out at least a little bit more research/ investigation before you become a hazard to yourself, your passengers and other road users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I'd like to see what you actually do engineering wise rather than just finished pictures. Do you intend to drive the car or just show it and transport it on a trailer or low loader ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's his car, if he wants to mod it his way then each to his own. It won't be to everyone's tastes but at least it'll be different. There's obviously a scene which appreciates the style and a supra would stand out in that scene too. That being said the advice offered in terms of doing it right and making it safe is well worth taking on board. I'd assume these things are more of show cars anyway as they don't seem very drivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 I work in engineering as a machinist-fitter so I will have some engineering background to put into and as for driving it will only be a summer show car so it won't be getting daily use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 And thanks jord at least someone on here can appreciate someone else choices and decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So you have a single turbo street race car to only drive at minimal speeds and distances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 And thanks jord at least someone on here can appreciate someone else choices and decisions I totally agree it's your car do what you like to it, but, if it's going to be driven on the highway with the rest us then it's not a great thing to do no matter how well engineered it is. Same goes for the stupidly stretched tyre club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredone Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 The max speed limit is 70 so what your saying is these cars are designed to drive faster than the speed limit? If you want to drive over it that's your decision but I'll stick to the limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The max speed limit is 70 so what your saying is these cars are designed to drive faster than the speed limit? If you want to drive over it that's your decision but I'll stick to the limit I don't think the speed limit has anything to do with it really. the fact that a tyre isn't designed to operate over a certain amount of camber is the issue along with the potential consequences when it overheats and fails, if it happens to blow out at the national speed limit good luck controlling the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 A sudden avoidance manoeuvre at even 40 MPH would be interesting! The effect on rear brake effectiveness similar. Not sure how such mods affect the ability to get a legitimate MOT test pass. I would hope an instant fail. As I said earlier, endorsing such personal freedom to make insane modifications that are glaringly obvious just moves the time forward to when virtually all mods are banned as has happened in many countries already. An insurance assessor's opinion after a serious, or worse, a fatal accident would be interesting, to say the least. I am all for personal freedom, and modified cars, mild to wild, but not when the changes serve only to introduce death traps to the British roads. I assume by the very fact you feel the need to do these mods you are quite young? Don't your parents realize their son and heir is teetering on the edge of disaster, physical, moral and legal? You need to find more worthy peers to emulate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Come on Chris, don't hold back or sugar coat it, just tell it as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Got camber! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29g386hXwyI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The max speed limit is 70 so what your saying is these cars are designed to drive faster than the speed limit? If you want to drive over it that's your decision but I'll stick to the limit [emoji4] I said minimal speeds. Never mentioned anything about the max speed limit. Minimal! As in minimum not maximum, low not high. And what I'm saying is, that you are willing to drive on public roads, at any speed with the bare minimum contact on the ground, at an angle where there is even less tread on the tyre, where the side wall isn't designed to be driven on and think it's ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Got camber! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29g386hXwyI I rest my case your honour, let the jury decide the defendant's culpability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprakeith Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I personally think it's a mad idea to run that much camber, my brother just wrote of his s14 last weekend coming of roundabout at 30mph and reason for crash was over stretched rear tyres, he spent one year and around 10k building car to write it off 8weeks later. I kept telling him it wasn't safe and now he has finally learnt I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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