berg Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 If you get a BBK ill buy your UK's 100% ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 If you get a BBK ill buy your UK's 100% ☺ OK mate. Not decided yet. Going to change brake fluid this weekend and see. Already chosen which BBK I'd go for if I do it, if they will fit my wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The big brembos at a guess ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 The big brembos at a guess ? Brembo 6 + 4 pot callipers from 2012- Jeep SRT 6.4 V8 and Brembo discs from Lexus ISF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I've not seen any data to suggest that SRT setup is an upgrade at all. From what I have seen, no effort has gone into calculating the effect on brake bias which can have a huge effect. Is the stock BMC even suited to that setup? UK's are more than enough for your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Not looking to spend £k's Nic other wise I'd of gone single, just looking for idea to eek out a bit more from the car. The parts you mentioned in your first post will cost you a sizable chunk of money, for the outlay they are not going to make a significant difference to the power. I did a lot of those mods to my own car (FMIC, cams, injectors, FPR, ECU) when I was still running the stock turbos and made 430hp. In hindsight the only mods I would do again would be the FMIC and perhaps the ECU. If you're not satisfied with the power you have at the moment, then the only way you are going to be happy is to ditch the stock turbos and do a single turbo install, it's worth doing but only if you're prepared to spend the large amount of money it takes to do properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I agree with the consensus here and would go small single if you can. However inlet, cams, FPR, larger injectors, ECU (I have a HKS FCon Pro S for sale) would see a slight increase and would be the way to go if you're staying stock twins. I think the hybrids route will put you close small single money territory anyway so rule that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Came very close to buying a single last night and at the very last second realised that I'd not use it to it's full potential and was better off sticking with my car that I've had and have worked on for a few years and staying BPU, I don't really need any more. So definitely shelved any idea about going single and just looking to make the most of what I've got and giving myself a new "to-do" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I know that a98Malcolm got good gains from his car with a similar route you are thinking using a Syvecs ECU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 That would be not worth the expense. After bpu you either bite the bullet and go single or just leave it as bpu imo Good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I know that a98Malcolm got good gains from his car with a similar route you are thinking using a Syvecs ECU. Cams + syvecs + mapping = £4k+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Cams + syvecs + mapping = £4k+ Yep, and if you remove the cost of the Blitz/Mines and the RLTC, you're only spending an extra £2500ish. It's probably worth it for how much better your car will run and the safety trips (oil, fuel pressure, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yep, and if you remove the cost of the Blitz/Mines and the RLTC, you're only spending an extra £2500ish. It's probably worth it for how much better your car will run and the safety trips (oil, fuel pressure, etc) The going rate for a Mines/Blitz is £2/300 ish and Racelogic is £3/400 second hand So that would leave you with £3300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I've not seen any data to suggest that SRT setup is an upgrade at all. From what I have seen, no effort has gone into calculating the effect on brake bias which can have a huge effect. Is the stock BMC even suited to that setup? UK's are more than enough for your setup. It enables you to get Performance Friction pads though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The going rate for a Mines/Blitz is £2/300 ish and Racelogic is £3/400 second hand So that would leave you with £3300 I was budgeting for £1500 new, not second hand. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I've literally been looking at this ever since I got my first supra. The only real way of more power above BPU level is to go single/big twin. Which is my whole thought process on my next supra. The cost of this to do is quite high as well so buying one already done is a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I've literally been looking at this ever since I got my first supra. The only real way of more power above BPU level is to go single/big twin. Which is my whole thought process on my next supra. The cost of this to do is quite high as well so buying one already done is a no brainer. That depends. It's only worth doing if you have the funds for a top end car. Buying a cheap single with cheap parts and questionable workmanship is a recipe for disaster and further expense. At least if you have one built yourself, you can be confident that it is done properly and to your own spec. I would probably only consider buying a single as a fresh import, or one built by Whifbitz or SRD. However, these rarely come on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Good decision IMO, i much prefer my bpu supra to my previous singled one, i wouldn't go single again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Most top-end cars end up getting broken anyways because there's rarely the market there to buy them at what the owner would consider a sensible price. It's an odd siutation. - - - Updated - - - Good decision IMO, i much prefer my bpu supra to my previous singled one, i wouldn't go single again. If I came back to a Supra, it'd either be the big twins again, or a small single. Big singles hit too hard for the chassis/our roads, IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Out of curiosity, at what size does it go from small single to big single? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdavies Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Out of curiosity, at what size does it go from small single to big single? Turbo of over 750bhp I would class as Big single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonR24 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 That depends. It's only worth doing if you have the funds for a top end car. Buying a cheap single with cheap parts and questionable workmanship is a recipe for disaster and further expense. At least if you have one built yourself, you can be confident that it is done properly and to your own spec. I would probably only consider buying a single as a fresh import, or one built by Whifbitz or SRD. However, these rarely come on the market. i definitely agree. Needs to be a well built car. Surely buying a single from import could have the same potential for a cheap build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie_k83 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Full exhaust system, Cams and a larger intercooler would give you a small power hike, but for a set of 264 cams, you would need some mapping done i'm sure. Its all about the gains in mind against your budget i guess, i cant say much as i'm all about NA power (Currently gathering parts for ITB conversion) lol Nitrous is a good shout, not seen anyone on here running it though? Failing that, improving the overall driveability of the car woud be a good shout, but you have it covered already! Edited August 5, 2015 by Richie_k83 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 i definitely agree. Needs to be a well built car. Surely buying a single from import could have the same potential for a cheap build? When I was planning on going single I worked it out at £15k with all the bits I wanted plus mapping, so almost bought a car that had already been built for less than that, but realised i don't use my car to warrant the expense. So will just keep mine at BPU and maybe swap the ECU or piggy back as I'm sure I've read that BPU cars run a little rich? - - - Updated - - - Nitrous has zero appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Surely buying a single from import could have the same potential for a cheap build? It would definitely be more of a risk, but it's pretty easy to tell the good ones from the bad. My single was built in Japan, the quality of the build was the equal of anything I've seen built here. James's T88 is another example of a high quality Japanese build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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