Big Mark Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Came close to selling up and just buying a single turbo Supra as so much cheaper than spending it making mine single, but after lots of thought I realise that I just don't use the car enough to warrant either outlay and wouldn't make the most of it. Plus I've spent years tinkering away with mine which I enjoy. So, as my car is currently full bpu and I like little projects I'm considering seeing if I can up the power a little and spend a fraction of the cost of a single, keeping my factory turbos and adding.......... Greddy style inlet manifold 264 CAMS Bigger injectors Front Mount intercooler (maybe) Piggyback ECU. What difference would this make and what Piggyback ecu do people recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Could always get some bigger twins or uprate your standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Keep hearing mixed things about hybrids. Would like to see what I can do with stock turbos for now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think it would be better value for money going single IMO, but it doesn't have to be hugely expensive. I'm not allowed to say the traders name (forum rules), but on the facebook group someone is selling a PHR cast single turbo kit for £1500 or offers. Get a good used Apexi Power FC, some UK spec injectors and a Bosch 044 pump. Should be good for 500hp. If you're lucky you could possibly do all that mapped for circa £4k. Your idea would probably cost £2kish, and you would see circa 430hp. I wouldn't bother with hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry_10 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That would be not worth the expense. After bpu you either bite the bullet and go single or just leave it as bpu imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That would be not worth the expense. After bpu you either bite the bullet and go single or just leave it as bpu imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drift_bear Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I got the same response from everyone about seeing how much you can push the hybrids! If you want to go down the hybrid route, you will see around 450-455 depending on what supporting mods and etc you have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Thanks guys. Going single isn't happening, I can't justify it and wouldn't make use of it. I'm just looking for little projects and improvements to do to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitbox Junkie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Not sure where you can get more power. Stroker kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Not sure where you can get more power. Stroker kit "Little Projects" not a full engine rebuild. Thinking a piggy back ECU just to fine tune things would be worth doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjy Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Get yourself a Blitz Access ECU or something similar dude. A few members have been in my BPU Auto and describe the 2nd turbo coming online as "savage". Keeps me happy until my J-Specs pack up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I would say an upgraded suspension, brake setup or weight loss would be more effective than a few more HP from cams. Racelogic traction control and premium tyres would also allow you to fully exploit your cars current performance. - - - Updated - - - Nitrous Oxide is also an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Get yourself a Blitz Access ECU or something similar dude. A few members have been in my BPU Auto and describe the 2nd turbo coming online as "savage". Keeps me happy until my J-Specs pack up! That's along the lines of what I'm thinking. Seen a couple of people selling Emange Ultimates at the moment. I would say an upgraded suspension, brake setup or weight loss would be more effective than a few more HP from cams. Racelogic traction control and premium tyres would also allow you to fully exploit your cars current performance. - - - Updated - - - Nitrous Oxide is also an option Fitted a Whifbitz Handling Kit in May so suspension sorted, Got uk brakes, braided line and CW pads already and doing brake fluid change at the weekend. Got a carbon fibre spark plug cover, how's that for weight saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If the car isn't a daily, you could replace the battery for a much smaller, lighter one. Dude on here used to sell lithium ones that weighed a fraction of a regular battery. The rear seat back is also pretty heavy (the base isn't worth removing), ditch the spare wheel, replace the bootlid glass with lexan and remove the wiper mechanism etc. But I would definitely consider the racelogic either way, it will give you more confidence, and make launches faster and easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Kong Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Do the Nitrous!!!!! And let me know if it's any good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Donuts Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I wouldn't touch nitrous oxide with a barge pole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That would be not worth the expense. After bpu you either bite the bullet and go single or just leave it as bpu imo Completely agree, you will spend £K's to gain another 30hp; 430hp is around the max you can get out of the stock turbos. If you are itching to spend money on the car it would be much better spent on optimising the handling, ie. suspension, tyres, brakes, LSD, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Not looking to spend £k's Nic other wise I'd of gone single, just looking for idea to eek out a bit more from the car. From conversations a piggyback ECU to fine tune things or even a Mines ECU or Blitz Access ECU sounds worthwhile. "suspension, tyres, brakes, LSD" are all sorted unless I upgrade my UK brakes to a Big Brake Kit, which is probably overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 If i was you i just wouldnt bother with a pggy back ecu , unless you really need it for something ie: hybrids,bigger injectors , All ecu's have there down falls unless your handy with the software to get over little problems , like cold start and injector responce time ,fuel trims . lets say £400 for the piggy then you will need another £400 mapping and set up. I have been their hybrids, single , dont get me wrong a single is great but not realy worth it if you have an auto when bpu is so good.(when in sequential!!! TTC is like having a massive single at 0.6 wastgate presure imho ) I take it you have a boost controler If you want to spend a little cash and enjoy the car more , start doing some track days they are around £150 - £200 , great fun and gives you things to play with and tinker with as you have to service it more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Weight loss for me is more hassle than its worth to be honest on a road car, if your in competition then its worth it but i cant see you noticing a difference on the road with less than 100kg difference, the hassle of having a dead race battery every other day just to save 10kg seems pointless I had one in my track car and swapped back to factory battery after 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 As said above, sort out other things than the engine/turbos. 1. Suspension - speak with Chris Wilson about a set of his revalved shocks and springs with his alignment. 2. Upgrade the brakes to the best you can afford, whether it be discs and pads or a full blown BBK. 3. Get some quality rubber, like Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. 4. Invest in some professional tuition. Making you a better driver will be worth more than a few bhp on a circuit. I'd seriously not bother with injectors and piggyback unless you're going to go the whole hog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I have been the route of hybrids and all supporting mods (cams, injectors, fuel pump, standalone ecu) once mapped by RyanG it was guessed to be around 480bhp (based on making 455 at SRR with a rather bad map). Sold the car.... and about 6 months later the hybrids died. I cannot recommend them.... Then why spend any money on the car? Get it detailed, get the little things sorted to make you happier when driving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 As said above, sort out other things than the engine/turbos. 1. Suspension - speak with Chris Wilson about a set of his revalved shocks and springs with his alignment. 2. Upgrade the brakes to the best you can afford, whether it be discs and pads or a full blown BBK. 3. Get some quality rubber, like Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. 4. Invest in some professional tuition. Making you a better driver will be worth more than a few bhp on a circuit. I'd seriously not bother with injectors and piggyback unless you're going to go the whole hog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 As said above, sort out other things than the engine/turbos. 1. Suspension - speak with Chris Wilson about a set of his revalved shocks and springs with his alignment. 2. Upgrade the brakes to the best you can afford, whether it be discs and pads or a full blown BBK. 3. Get some quality rubber, like Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. 4. Invest in some professional tuition. Making you a better driver will be worth more than a few bhp on a circuit. I'd seriously not bother with injectors and piggyback unless you're going to go the whole hog. Suspension - DONE - Whifbitz Handling Kit Brakes - DONE - UK's with CW pads and Braided hoses - Tho considering a BBK Tyres - DONE - Brand new Vredestein all round and no issues with grip at all. Tuition - Sounds fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mark Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Not stripping car for weight saving, if I wanted to save weight I'd go on a diet. Hybrids have a reputation for unreliability. Probably just go for a Mines, TOMS, or Blitx Access ECU and that'll be it. (maybe a greddy style manifold too as I like the look) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.