Chris Wilson Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I read this morning that Mr.Cameron, our very very wet leader, is seeing the answer to the Calais immigrant crisis as being sending in the dogs. For an instant I had visions of Doberman Pinschers, German Shepherd dogs and Rottweilers being unleashed and the swarm driven back towards the Mediterranean and beyond. And yes, Cameron's much commented on choice of word suits the situation accurately and admirably, in my opinion, a swarm it is, that needs breaking up and dispersing far and wide. But short lived it was, he's sending some rolls of chain link fencing and some cute Spaniel sniffer dogs... Of course parliament is in recess, so this blight on our economy, reputation (such as it is), and transport system is going to remain until the Autumn and beyond. Pathetic!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I read this morning that Mr.Cameron, our very very wet leader, is seeing the answer to the Calais immigrant crisis as being sending in the dogs. For an instant I had visions of Doberman Pinschers, German Shepherd dogs and Rottweilers being unleashed and the swarm driven back towards the Mediterranean and beyond. And yes, Cameron's much commented on choice of word suits the situation accurately and admirably, in my opinion, a swarm it is, that needs breaking up and dispersing far and wide. But short lived it was, he's sending some rolls of chain link fencing and some cute Spaniel sniffer dogs... Of course parliament is in recess, so this blight on our economy, reputation (such as it is), and transport system is going to remain until the Autumn and beyond. Pathetic!!! Agreed Our government is a farce. This problem needs sorting out asap, they need to stop talking about it and take action. I'm not looking forward to crossing there next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Maybe it was a Freudian slip for, "Our immigration policy has gone to the dogs"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Dont hate the players hate the game. These guys are just doing whats best for them. You change the system make it less attractive and they wont come. How desperate do you have to be to jump onto a moving train? I worked for the tunnel and ive seen what happens when they miss, and or get caught on the other head power lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Send out the army and clear them away from terminal, I know its easier said than done but it would be a start ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Herd them up, lock `em up, put `em on a ship and drop them in some far off hell hole. The word would soon get around that it's a waste of time, money and effort trying to come here. Then make the system such anathema to them they wouldn't even dream of wanting to come here. If they resist, shoot them. There's only one way to deal with a lawless, brazen rabble. Who is feeding them? Why are they allowed to build shanty towns? Where do they get clean clothes? Some bleedin' do gooders, no doubt. I am just watching a group of them on the TV, on their mobiles, swigging from new bottles of Coca Cola, smoking branded fags. In Nike trainers and leather jackets, clean designer jeans. Desperate, persecuted, in poverty? Yeah, right, of course they are. Nice people? That's why the crime rates shoot up wherever these people congregate. And why they have abandoned so many kids in Kent the social services cannot cope with the numbers. How long before they bring Ebola or similar in, undetected? These lot aren't having their temperatures checked and filling in a form telling of their travels when they leap off a lorries axle in some corner of our once pleasant land. The Jungle wants bulldozing, disinfecting and a few million spent shifting this lot somewhere more unpleasant than where they claim to have come from. "Doing what's best for them"??? If I decided, together with a large proportion of my township, to "do what's best for me" and invaded Monaco, Zurich or St Petersburg, without money, papers or invitation, how long would I last? We'd all like to do what's best for us, invading a foreign land used to be an act of war. I want to see them treated as invaders, where's my wooden rifle..... I'm off to practice drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Well sad Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Sad or said? There's a bit of a difference ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 I think he meant well said. But just in case he didn't, well said Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Said Chris well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 "Doing what's best for them"??? If I decided, together with a large proportion of my township, to "do what's best for me" and invaded Monaco, Zurich or St Petersburg, without money, papers or invitation, how long would I last? We'd all like to do what's best for us, invading a foreign land used to be an act of war. I want to see them treated as invaders, where's my wooden rifle..... I'm off to practice drill And this is the problem, if you invaded monaco say? and they gave you money/housing/health care/everything you ever dreamed of for free wouldn't you do it? The system is broken not the people. They are merely doing what most of us would do if faced with the same situation. So round them up, deport them, ect fine. That will fix the short term problem. However until you address the carrot being dangled in front of them it wont change. As i said they are doing whats best for them, and currently what is best for them is getting into the uk by any means necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Dobermans wouldn't work. They only look the part. Ours shake the front gate of our farm and some delivery men won't enter. But if they did they would be licked to death. There super soft loving dogs. You could double fence the area like the old Berlin Wall and stick some geese in there. They can be mean critters. But for me I think we should try to get the French government to sack all the ferry men. Farmers. Yep farmers. Police. truck drivers and any other French government employees and replace them with the immigrants. Maybe we could all drive across France each year without a problem. I have worked in France. Love the country. Love the French. Just wished they lived somewhere else. Maybe Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Sometimes, if I feel really dumb for some reason like if I've had a day where I've done something stupid or participated in an activity that has affected made or me look daft I know that there will be a thread like this somewhere that will instantly make me feel far less stupid just by reading what others are writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I see this problem on two different fronts... The first is that France, and all the other EU members that happily allow these unidentified illegal persons to roam free within their borders, are not fulfilling their obligation to process them and issue them visas or and/or send them back over the border from where they came. Its not as if France is not aware of where they are - there is a bleeding huge camp full of them in waiting for further illegal activities on gaining entry to Britain - ie. they are simply allowing the breaking of law on both their own government's side and of the illegal activities of the migrants. Secondly as this is mainly an economic migrant issue I think the message has to be put out that borders are there for a reason. It would be totally impracticable to have an open border whereby anyone from any part of the world can move to an area of more wealth/prosperity without control of numbers. Even within the EU there is mention of "freedom of movement" within the Shengen area, but that only applies when you have a work visa. Even within the EU the entire population of Greece would not be simply allowed to economically migrate to the more prosperous Germany for example. It would similarly be unfair to have the population of Britain intake a huge population of Africa, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, etc. etc. .... the effect would be devastating on our infrastructure and resources. Society would fall apart and we in turn would end up just like the places these people have come from. I also think David Cameron is not being strong/strict enough over the issue, but he is up against our lefty media who by the sounds of it are taking more and more of a "plight of the illegal immigrant people" stance on the issue. And he's also up against the French, who I suspect are enjoying the trouble they are able to orchestrate against us. But I guess a few sniffer dogs and a few extra fences will take the abuse of 5000+ migrants with fence cutting tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 If they break the law that much in an attempt to get over here, threatening lorry drivers and fighting with Police then imagine the sort of crime they will be willing to commit once here to survive without being able to claim benefits. The Lefties always use the fact that they can't claim benefits and must fend for themselves as a plus point. maybe when they and their relatives are robbed blind by them they'll have a different outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 The fences they have put up are not much better than a garden fence as has been shown on the news,they need to electrify them.I also think all lorry's should be made more secure.Of course if we can't resolve the problem we could always flood the tunnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Herd them up, lock `em up, put `em on a ship and drop them in some far off hell hole. The word would soon get around that it's a waste of time, money and effort trying to come here. Then make the system such anathema to them they wouldn't even dream of wanting to come here. If they resist, shoot them. There's only one way to deal with a lawless, brazen rabble. Who is feeding them? Why are they allowed to build shanty towns? Where do they get clean clothes? Some bleedin' do gooders, no doubt. I am just watching a group of them on the TV, on their mobiles, swigging from new bottles of Coca Cola, smoking branded fags. In Nike trainers and leather jackets, clean designer jeans. Desperate, persecuted, in poverty? Yeah, right, of course they are. Nice people? That's why the crime rates shoot up wherever these people congregate. And why they have abandoned so many kids in Kent the social services cannot cope with the numbers. How long before they bring Ebola or similar in, undetected? These lot aren't having their temperatures checked and filling in a form telling of their travels when they leap off a lorries axle in some corner of our once pleasant land. The Jungle wants bulldozing, disinfecting and a few million spent shifting this lot somewhere more unpleasant than where they claim to have come from. "Doing what's best for them"??? If I decided, together with a large proportion of my township, to "do what's best for me" and invaded Monaco, Zurich or St Petersburg, without money, papers or invitation, how long would I last? We'd all like to do what's best for us, invading a foreign land used to be an act of war. I want to see them treated as invaders, where's my wooden rifle..... I'm off to practice drill Got that right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Herd them up, lock `em up, put `em on a ship and drop them in some far off hell hole. The word would soon get around that it's a waste of time, money and effort trying to come here. Then make the system such anathema to them they wouldn't even dream of wanting to come here. If they resist, shoot them. There's only one way to deal with a lawless, brazen rabble. Who is feeding them? Why are they allowed to build shanty towns? Where do they get clean clothes? Some bleedin' do gooders, no doubt. I am just watching a group of them on the TV, on their mobiles, swigging from new bottles of Coca Cola, smoking branded fags. In Nike trainers and leather jackets, clean designer jeans. Desperate, persecuted, in poverty? Yeah, right, of course they are. Nice people? That's why the crime rates shoot up wherever these people congregate. And why they have abandoned so many kids in Kent the social services cannot cope with the numbers. How long before they bring Ebola or similar in, undetected? These lot aren't having their temperatures checked and filling in a form telling of their travels when they leap off a lorries axle in some corner of our once pleasant land. The Jungle wants bulldozing, disinfecting and a few million spent shifting this lot somewhere more unpleasant than where they claim to have come from. "Doing what's best for them"??? If I decided, together with a large proportion of my township, to "do what's best for me" and invaded Monaco, Zurich or St Petersburg, without money, papers or invitation, how long would I last? We'd all like to do what's best for us, invading a foreign land used to be an act of war. I want to see them treated as invaders, where's my wooden rifle..... I'm off to practice drill Luckily in 20 or so years most people with that point of view will have died out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 A temp law within the radius of Calais needs introducing. Tell people not to travel on X day and introduce a purge - job done no one will set up towns and stay in make shift camps again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike2JZ Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Passed through Calais the other day and it was a dump. Half the roads closed and streets completely littered with rubbish and debris. To be honest, it just looked like the french public and security didn't give a s*** what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The way this is being handled is terrible and the desire to get to the UK at all costs is concerning to say the least, however put yourself in there position for just a minute, we lead very rich and wealthy lives compared to much of the 2nd and 3rd world, they are coming from countries torn apart by years of war and corruption, they are often facing religious persecution even ethnic cleansing. Combine this with the poor housing, poor heathcare, high levels of child mortality, little to no education and therefore prospects and serious diseases what would you what to do for your family, I know I would want to get to a better country given half the chance I also understand this is not the case for all those trying to get to our border but I think it is true in most cases The problem is in the source countries and this is where the efforts should be made but as we all know this is not going to come easily, the world is changing and the rich and poor divide getting greater but with the world of media now at the fingertips of those 3rd world individuals they can see every day what they are missing out on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The way this is being handled is terrible and the desire to get to the UK at all costs is concerning to say the least, however put yourself in there position for just a minute, we lead very rich and wealthy lives compared to much of the 2nd and 3rd world, they are coming from countries torn apart by years of war and corruption, they are often facing religious persecution even ethnic cleansing. Combine this with the poor housing, poor heathcare, high levels of child mortality, little to no education and therefore prospects and serious diseases what would you what to do for your family, I know I would want to get to a better country given half the chance I also understand this is not the case for all those trying to get to our border but I think it is true in most cases The problem is in the source countries and this is where the efforts should be made but as we all know this is not going to come easily, the world is changing and the rich and poor divide getting greater but with the world of media now at the fingertips of those 3rd world individuals they can see every day what they are missing out on Been said a few times, but they are not fleaing for a safer place for their family etc etc, if that were true most have travelled through at least 2 or 3 1st world countries where they would be safe, have opportunity to work and make a decent living. So why don't they stop there?? They are targeting the UK as we are seen as soft, easy to get in and we give you loads of free help and support when you get here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Whatever the reason for them trying to get here, the simple fact is we cant take them all.If we said o.k. lets take these five thousand in and give them refuge within a few months they would be replaced with another five thousand.It's an impossible task to empty Africa into the u.k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 There's an e-petition about having no confidence in Cameron's handling of the Calais Crisis: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105402 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bullitt Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This might be part of the problem. [ATTACH=CONFIG]203842[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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