Chris Wilson Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Figures just released say the British police are currently investigating 1433 allegations of historic child abuse. Of the 1433 number, which is increasing daily, 261 of them are actually dead. Is this good use of limited resources? How many man hours do such investigations consume, and at what financial cost to the taxpayer for trying to bring old men and perhaps old women to court? How many of these allegations are from people potentially on the make? Staggering figures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 On another subject but police related did you read about the cow that was shot by police marksman Unbelievable response http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wallsend-6000-people-really-going-5727052 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Ooops, wrong section, I meant it to go into Off Topic, sorry. Please move if possible! Looking at the police federation meeting with Teresa May I reckon they'd like to shoot her. A more politically charged and motivated bunch of scruffy yobs is hard to imagine... Luckily she's used to them and giving them some grief Perhaps the marksmen have a hankering to be in Louisiana and decided a cow would have to do instead. Luckily it wasn't a Welsh Black. That'd have had them in political correctness turmoil for days. Unbelievable. well, almost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoaster Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Figures just released say the British police are currently investigating 1433 allegations of historic child abuse. Of the 1433 number, which is increasing daily, 261 of them are actually dead. Is this good use of limited resources? How many man hours do such investigations consume, and at what financial cost to the taxpayer for trying to bring old men and perhaps old women to court? How many of these allegations are from people potentially on the make? Staggering figures! Personally I'd hunt down paedos in this life and the next, I'm lucky enough not to have had my life ruined in this way, old age and getting away with it, are not good reasons to not prosecute perverts. From Sky News: "Detectives investigating historical child sex abuse allegations against politicians and celebrities have identified more than 1,400 suspects. They said there is no figure for the number of alleged child victims, but it is likely to run into thousands. The figures were released by Operation Hydrant, which was set up by the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) to explore abuse by "prominent public persons". Norfolk Chief Constable Simon Bailey, who heads the NPCC's child protection team, said a total of 1,433 people are being investigated, and 216 of them are now dead. He said 261 are classed as "people of public prominence". Of these, 135 come from the world of TV, film or radio, 76 are politicians, 43 are from the music industry, and seven are from sport" The innocent have nothing to fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Figures just released say the British police are currently investigating 1433 allegations of historic child abuse. Of the 1433 number, which is increasing daily, 261 of them are actually dead. Is this good use of limited resources? How many man hours do such investigations consume, and at what financial cost to the taxpayer for trying to bring old men and perhaps old women to court? How many of these allegations are from people potentially on the make? Staggering figures! Seriously? You start a topic about this subject and your main concerns are the cost to the taxpayer and whether it's a good use of resources? People like YOU are the reason these victims stay silent for for so long. Boils my piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Personally I'd hunt down paedos in this life and the next, I'm lucky enough not to have had my life ruined in this way, old age and getting away with it, are not good reasons to not prosecute perverts. Agreed. As a parent I obviously have a very strong and biased opinion and wouldn't loose a wink of sleep if they were all doused in petrol and burnt alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Figures just released say the British police are currently investigating 1433 allegations of historic child abuse. Of the 1433 number, which is increasing daily, 261 of them are actually dead. Is this good use of limited resources? How many man hours do such investigations consume, and at what financial cost to the taxpayer for trying to bring old men and perhaps old women to court? How many of these allegations are from people potentially on the make? Staggering figures! Money well spent Chris - i'll happily contribute 60% tax to get these scum behind bars..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 It's a bit pointless getting a dead man behind bars though.... Personally I would rather they targeted living criminals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It's a bit pointless getting a dead man behind bars though.... Personally I would rather they targeted living criminals Go speak to victims of these crimes then and tell them his/her quest for justice is "a bit pointless". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It's a bit pointless getting a dead man behind bars though.... Personally I would rather they targeted living criminals They should target both and ensure that we establish a zero tolerance stance to child abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 They should target both and ensure that we establish a zero tolerance stance to child abuse. 100% agreed. There should also be jail sentences for those who protect and facilitate child sex offenders, such as those vile councilors in Rotherham who tried to brush it under the carpet on the grounds of political correctness. The amount of public figures, celebrities etc caught up in this is especially disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 It will never happen, political correctness is rife in the government, the police, the council at local levels and even the damned military. The Rotherham debacle you mention is just typical of how paid representatives of the people kowtow and put career enhancement before even such fundamentals as protecting their young citizens. The talk of making large councils autonomous will make such situations worse and more commonplace. We need a sea change in all this stuff, some proper Statesmen who put English people before career or political motivation. I still say most of it's a waste of resources, even if they get irrefutable evidence of dead men abusing kids, what can they do? Most / all of those who may have hidden it or been implicated in it are also dead. They need to concentrate on current blasphemies. Tell me who has been locked up, sacked and had their pensions revoked in Rotherham, for example? 90% blather, 10% broken pledges is what actually happens Loads of similar cases where Social Service managers undoubtedly failed to do their job at the most basic level, yet just get a departmental move and keep their vast pensions, it's a scandal of national proportions. Victoria Climbie for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo11 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It will never happen, political correctness is rife in the government, the police, the council at local levels and even the damned military. The Rotherham debacle you mention is just typical of how paid representatives of the people kowtow and put career enhancement before even such fundamentals as protecting their young citizens. The talk of making large councils autonomous will make such situations worse and more commonplace. We need a sea change in all this stuff, some proper Statesmen who put English people before career or political motivation. I still say most of it's a waste of resources, even if they get irrefutable evidence of dead men abusing kids, what can they do? Most / all of those who may have hidden it or been implicated in it are also dead. They need to concentrate on current blasphemies. Tell me who has been locked up, sacked and had their pensions revoked in Rotherham, for example? 90% blather, 10% broken pledges is what actually happens Loads of similar cases where Social Service managers undoubtedly failed to do their job at the most basic level, yet just get a departmental move and keep their vast pensions, it's a scandal of national proportions. Victoria Climbie for example. The first half of your post is true. The second half again like your opening post is the completely wrong attitude and symptomatic of why people do not come forward sooner, because "what's the point". Such a seriously degrading view to take, there is no time limit for justice particularly in this area. And again you use the line" waste of resources". That's seriously warped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rot comes from the top. They should begin with Prince Andrew and work their way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Rot comes from the top. They should begin with Prince Andrew and work their way down. I am glad you mentioned that one David as if ever there was a case of ambulance chasing, that was it. The paedo's deserve all they get, the people who accuse for gain deserve the same fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Rot comes from the top. That's a easy and poor excuse to pass on the responsibility. Society as a whole is responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I still say most of it's a waste of resources, even if they get irrefutable evidence of dead men abusing kids, what can they do? Most / all of those who may have hidden it or been implicated in it are also dead. They need to concentrate on current blasphemies. Tell me who has been locked up, sacked and had their pensions revoked in Rotherham, for example? 90% blather, 10% broken pledges is what actually happens Loads of similar cases where Social Service managers undoubtedly failed to do their job at the most basic level, yet just get a departmental move and keep their vast pensions, it's a scandal of national proportions. Victoria Climbie for example. If nothing else, it may give them some insight into how this vile and very secretive sect operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 That's an easy and poor excuse to pass on the responsibility. Society as a whole is responsible. It is a sad reality that our peers who should be leading by example are statistically by far the worst offenders. Society as a whole is responsible and castrating the offenders would get my vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 While I agree hole heartedly with the opinions that its the secret underworld of pedophiles and sects that should be targeted with a vengeance, I also do wonder at the shear amount of allegations made at people of means, whether showbiz or otherwise, and investigations into allegations about deceased people, While I don't suggest its ignored, I would suggest the resources should be used to target existing and ongoing cases, which should be treated with priority, as nothing other than possible posthumous cash awards can be achieved from the deceased estates, which I suspect is the point, as its an easy fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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