jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 does this seems normal, or accptel wobble??? https://youtu.be/zrNE4rvr-pY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsdeep Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I asked this very question some time ago. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?316628-Exhaust-camshaft-gear-wobble&highlight=Camshaft+wobble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ok should i be worried or is it normal? it dont seems like there was a answer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Seefo Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Your cams definitely are not wobbling. Watch them closer to the belt and you will see. The wobble is just perceived. Edited May 7, 2015 by Seefo (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrosixfour Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ok should i be worried or is it normal? it dont seems like there was a answer ? The thick load spreader washers are not very good fits on the bolts, they often end up being not concentric with the pulley or the cam centreline, so visibly run out. It's insignificant for balance, just aesthetically annoying like a muddy mark on a slowly rotating tyre. Looks like an answer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14PPA Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I believe thats normal mate. The design of the cam pulleys make it look like its wobbling. But if you look at the edge of the pulley its not moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 that i did see too. that cams dont look to wobbling, just the bolt on the cam gears.. it was just if it could give some unbalanced to the camshaft camgear or belt ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Looks like an answer to me. yes i did see he wrote that, but as it seems that the bolt/washer wobble on mine, and i couldnt see the video he have attach, so can not see if his wobble on the bolt too, or only the washer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) error Edited May 7, 2015 by jza800 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 I believe thats normal mate. The design of the cam pulleys make it look like its wobbling. But if you look at the edge of the pulley its not moving ok thanks, it was only because i could see the intake cam dident have the wobbleling at all, that i was a little worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 i have now taken a new look at the cams.. and this is about what i see cam gear: about 0.5 to 1mm off wobble washer : about 2 to 3 mm off wobble bolt : about 1 to 1.5 mm off wobble so that cam gear wobble a little.. i now a have to take it apart to find what is wrong, so what can be damage off this wobble? and is it posible the cam can be out off balance or can the cam be skewed.. i now i maybe can be of protective to this problem, but dont want anything to happen to this engine with all that work i have but in to it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 How did you measure the wobble? Did you use a DTI? Looks normal to me tbh. The cams are bolted into the head, so they can't wobble (unless they're bent!), the washers arent a close tolerance fit over the bolts so they will sit off centre, and the bolts probably arent manufactured to a very high tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 with a pen on the edge of the bolt / washer / camgear (i now that is not the right way, but it give me a little idea off how much).. i hope it is normal, as i really dont want anything to happen to this engine, as i have put a lot of work to it... what do you mean with this -> and the bolts probably arent manufactured to a very high tolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 As in the heads probably arent forged/cast/machined exactly centrally. You can only accurately measure the perceived wobble with a proper DTI. I bet of 10 people filmed their cam gears the results would be the same as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 i have never thought about that, but that could explain the wobble on the bolt.. are that something others have seen, or have you seen that before??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ive never paid attention to it before to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 As in the heads probably arent forged/cast/machined exactly centrally. You can only accurately measure the perceived wobble with a proper DTI. I bet of 10 people filmed their cam gears the results would be the same as yours. I accept your bet so people attach you video off your camgears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 does this seems normal, or accptel wobble??? https://youtu.be/zrNE4rvr-pY Absolutely normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Here you go, taken this afternoon. Note the exhaust pulley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Here you go, taken this afternoon. Note the exhaust pulley thanks 1 down 9 to go and i looks like you have close to same play/wobble as i have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Absolutely normal. how about that the camgear wobble 0.5 to 1mm, the wobble is not sidewayes.. can it have some impact whatsoever ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Its not wobbling! Like I said it appears it is because of the washers/bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 my camgear does wobble, i have had a pen on the edge on it, and could see that it moved about 0.5 to 1mm... i now that it was not the right way to do it, but it gave an idea.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jza800 Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 how is the best and easy way to loosen the camshaft/pully bolt, so i can center the washer a little better? can i lock it with this tools ---> or can i hold it on the bolt on the harmonic damper without risking the bolts on the cam gears comes loose?? i now when i fit them i did hold the camshaft with a key on them, but if others choises was posible it would be easer than take the camcover off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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