Dim Sum Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I am planning to get a base map so I can drive the car to the mappers, and I aint too sure what information he needs. The ECU in question is only a piggyback F con Pro The engine is a UK Spec SARD 8500cc Precision 6755 It runs on a MAF sensor right? Is there other details a mapper needs to get a base map? Any help appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 how would you be able to upload the base map anyway , dont hks have a difficult software to get so joe public cant play with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraleeturbo Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Oh god you definitely don't want the exhaust I'm selling them fella as it would be a big restriction for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 how would you be able to upload the base map anyway , dont hks have a difficult software to get so joe public cant play with it ? He won't be ulpoading it, I be going to the mapper and get a base map at the place Oh god you definitely don't want the exhaust I'm selling them fella as it would be a big restriction for you Okay Lee thanks for the heads up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 You wont be able to drive it to the mapper with those injectors, trouble is only HKS dealers have access to the power writer software, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I be going to the mapper and get a base map at the place As Rick says you wont be able to drive it there , with them injectors it would be flooding the car and I doubt it would even start , On the other note why would your mapper be asking for a base map , If he knew what he was doing he wouldnt need it ! which would worry me , Thing is alot of mappers can map a car being sort timing and get correct fueling , but not so many good mappers that can actually set up the ecu for the car with correct signal and inputs required which later give problems and take a few visits to resolve . what im saying is make sure that your mapper is comfortable with the ecu and knows the ins and outs of it , it will save you time and money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 What the op means guys, is he wants to take the fcon to the mapper, and have a base map flashed to it, with the new injector values set, just to allow him to drive the car to their premises, for it to be fully mapped. His engine is UK spec, but isn't sure if the fcon needs a map sensor input, where by, he'll have to buy an aftermarket one and plumb it into the engine, to be able to drive it. I'm not sure if the fcon works on a maf setup? I did the exact same thing when I built my single at home. It ran a bit lumpy, but got me there, so it could be fully mapped. He's using tdi in grays, the guys who done mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 As far as Im aware you need an aftermarket MAP sensor on an HKS loom, thats what my Fcon has. How can you flash it off the car, surely it has to be powered up to accept any map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk4Gaz Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thats what I thought, I'm pretty sure the fcon needs a map input Tdi can power up the ecu on the bench, and they have a base map on their software, which is factory 2jz values. They just adjust the injector values, and possibly other settings, to allow the engine to run Then the car can be driven there, albeit carefully, to be fully mapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 What the op means guys, is he wants to take the fcon to the mapper, and have a base map flashed to it, with the new injector values set, just to allow him to drive the car to their premises, for it to be fully mapped. His engine is UK spec, but isn't sure if the fcon needs a map sensor input, where by, he'll have to buy an aftermarket one and plumb it into the engine, to be able to drive it. I'm not sure if the fcon works on a maf setup? I did the exact same thing when I built my single at home. It ran a bit lumpy, but got me there, so it could be fully mapped. He's using tdi in grays, the guys who done mine It's a official i suck at explaining. Yes what Gaz said, he explained it way better and described it spot on. I wish I could explained more but i lack the knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Isn't it easier and safer to have the car transported there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Isn't it easier and safer to have the car transported there? I agree entirely. From the first turn of the key the mapper needs to be right next to the engine, logged into the ecu, and monitoring all vital signs. All this base map and drive carefully to the rolling road talk makes me shudder, if you pardon the unintended pun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 If the F con is a piggyback? so its only going to need the injector size altered globally in order to run, as the std ECU takes care of the rest, so with that he can drive it there carefully for the full map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 If the F con is a piggyback? so its only going to need the injector size altered globally in order to run, as the std ECU takes care of the rest, so with that he can drive it there carefully for the full map. That is exactly what i want to do since its only a piggyback. again just not sure what other infomation thr mapper needs for me to get a flash map so i can start the car up and make sure everything is good and ready for mapping when im there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dim Sum Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Okay think I have it sorted now. Thanks everyone, think where I have spoken to different people in the workshop and not actually the mapper. Information was different each time, since I have spoken to Sam it makes more sense now. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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